A quick "tutorial"...

Phillip Patton

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Hey guys,
Today I modified the flat grinding platen on my KMG by adding a piece of glass, and thought I would take some pictures of the process and share them with you all.
The steel platen works fine for rough grinding, but whenever I switch to 240 or finer grit, it leaves divots all over the blade.... It's also getting some grooves cut in it.
The first grinder I had (which I built) had the same problem, so I modified it also, and adding the glass fixed it. So now I'm doing it to my newer grinder.
The glass I'm using is the special, high temp stuff they use for fireplace windows. In fact, the piece I have was scrounged from our old wood stove.
It's really wear resistant.

First step is to cut out a piece the same size as the existing platen.
I did this with a diamond tile saw, which is probably the only way to do it, as hard as this stuff is. I didn't get any pictures of cutting it, but here it is all ready to go:

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Next, I welded a "step" on the bottom of the original platen. I got this idea from someone else here on the forums, I don't remember who.
The purpose of the step is to keep the glass from creating a catastrophe if the adhesive should fail.

Here's the step:

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I also bead blasted the steel platen and the glass, so things should stick quite well.

Next, put a bead of good old silicon rubber on the platen:

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Spread it around:

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Then clamp it down:

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When I did my first grinder, I didn't have the step on it, and I didn't bead blast it, and I haven't had any problems with it loosening, but, better safe than sorry. :)
 
That looks like a damn great idea. I have been thinking of doing something similar, so now that you've posted that I'll be sure and get going on it.

Looks great
Nick:thumbup:
 
you can also score glass to cut it, works great. thanks for the tutorial!

I think I tried scoring for the first grinder, and it didn't go well. Maybe I'm remembering wrong and just never thought of it. :) If scoring works, go for it! The tile saw makes a lot of chips in the edge, and if you can avoid that, it would be better.
 
Been using a neo-ceramic platen cover since I got my K M G. I just used double sided carpet tape to attatch it.Clean it good and heat both a litte so it sticks better. Forgot the step but am thinking I better put 1 on.
I bought an extra platen. Put ceramic on 1 and a cushion on the other.
Take care
TJ
 
you really have to bear down on it, and I usually use a broom handle to crack it over. My grandma refurbishes picture frames and I cut all the glass for them, the only thing I'd recommend would be taking a swipe of the edges on your slack belt because those edges are SHARP
 
I have neo-ceramic glass on mine as well. I put it on with an Industrial two sided tape from work. Simple, cheap and works great. :thumbup:
 
Thanks for the write up. If you order the glass liner just a tad shorter, you can swap out the lower mounting bolt for one that's long enough to extend through the metal platen. It's not a full width foot, but it take just a few minutes to set up a positive stop.
Take care, Craig
 
If you happen to have a cork belt lieing around it will work great to clean up the edges on the glass before you install it. The two way ta;pe to use is the kind WITHOUT the cloth mesh in it. Frank
 
Use what is called 3M exterior Mounting Tape. You could hang your cat on the wall with it.
I'm glad you showed this tutorial. I've been stressing that little welded step on the bottom and mounting tape for about 3 years now. I've seen where guys use all sorts of high strength this and that, epoxy, JB weld, etc. Not necessary. ALL of the contact with your platen will be PUSHING on the glass! Nothing is ever going to try to pull it off!
But! You must make sure you have a little welded "ledge" at the bottom.
During some rather aggressive grinding for a few days, I did notice once that my tape must have been getting warm/hot and the platen was gradually sliding down!! As much as 1/4"!! that was scary. That's when I welded the ledge on the bottom.
If it had slid further down and got in the lower platen wheel, it could have been disastrous!
The tape allows you to easily remove the platen. Simply "Slim-jim" something under it, making sure not to crack that glass! Be careful!
 
I made two platen "liners" out of precision ground O-1. I put the first one on and got a groove in it from profiling. So now I use one for profiling and one for doing my flats. Only take a minute to change them out. It works better for me. I have a ceramic platen liner too, but am undecided whether I want to use it yet.
-John
 
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