A rant that will likely get me banned.

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In light of recent ongoings in this forum, I feel compelled to ask, when did we as a society, go off the rails? Was it a specific moment in time, or just a slow decay? A descent into apathy, and debauchery.

I feel that this quote could not be more apropos:

"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat." – THEODORE ROOSEVELT

I feel like it’s time someone said something. Dismiss me as a fanboy if you want, but this has more to do with life, than just business or knives.

Seriously, what has happened to our once Great Nation? When did the masses become the critics instead of the doers of deeds?

Ellie & Guy, You are the ones in the arena. Please reread T.R.’s quote and hold your heads high! You are the type of souls that built our once great Nation! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Please Keep Striving! In my estimation, you have done an excellent job so far, and more than that, you are setting an example for others to follow.

To the critics and spectators, (myself included) whether born from a good natured intent to help, an indulgence in self-gratification by expressing your discontent, or just a desire to tear down and bitch; please reread T.R.’s quote and ask yourself which person you would rather be? Also, please keep in mind that I’m not just referring to Survive Knives, I’m referring to every aspect of our lives, how you perform at work, what you do for recreation, how you talk to your spouse. It’s so easy to fall into the cesspool of negativity, and much more difficult to self-examine, and change course once you have. Endeavor to be a better person. To be positive. To achieve out of reach goals. Concern yourself not with what someone else does or does not do, but attempt to be the best version of yourself.

Stop disparaging others for their efforts. Encourage and support them. Our economy is in the toilet, jobs are moving to other countries. Don’t you think it’s time to start making an effort to support American business? Businesses like Survive! To encourage them to succeed?

At least for the time being, the economic system of our nation is capitalism. Vote with your dollars. If you approve of the way they do things, of the products that they produce, then buy their products. If not, then Don’t. It really is that simple.

This situation, as well as every other should be as simple as one of the kindergarten rules: If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all. Yes, the first Amendment guarantees the right to free speech, and you do have every right to say what you want; but should you? Which are you, the Doer, or the critic?

Don’t bother to respond if you got all butthurt. I don’t want to hear it. Besides, you’ll just further my confirm my thinking. Spend that energy on some serious introspection.

Lastly, I’d like to leave you with a final thought. If you think you have the answer, Shut your pie holster, put your money where your mouth is, and build a better knife and knife company! After all, isn’t that what Guy did/is doing?

Junkyard
 
So what do we call those that stoop to criticizing the critics? ;)

To be clear, My intent was to provoke thought; not necessarily to criticize the critics. I do see how it can be viewed as that. However, if you read carefully enough, I counted myself in the critic category.

Thank you.
Junkyard
 
Well said Junkyard! I think you speak for many of us here on the forum with your eloquent post, 100% spot on......
 
I have stated my opinion on this matter in any number of other threads, so I wont rehash it again. BUT as for what you have stated above I will simply say: Junkyard I agree with what you said 100% I believe that people have a right to say what they want, but the internet has turned everyone "brave". There is literally nothing brave about tearing into a company via an online forum, or facebook, or some other nameless social media outlet.
 
I have stated my opinion on this matter in any number of other threads, so I wont rehash it again. BUT as for what you have stated above I will simply say: Junkyard I agree with what you said 100% I believe that people have a right to say what they want, but the internet has turned everyone "brave". There is literally nothing brave about tearing into a company via an online forum, or facebook, or some other nameless social media outlet.

^^ This.
 
Yep you're right Junkyard, you're gonna get banned for making sense. ;)

We can't have THAT around here!


BRAVO!
 
Junkyard, I don't think you'll get banned in this forum.
There are some forums on BF that are in the habit of redacting posts and banning their posters, but I haven't noticed it here.
 
Ha! Going off of your title I was all amped up and ready to read about you flipping out, but you made a lot of sense like usual. Carry on!
 
Excellent post Junkyard! Your points definitely apply to other first world countries too, where many will complain and lash out when faced with a relatively small problem that could be solved in a more civilised manner.
It's easy to forget the big picture and count our blessings!
 
Agree 100% Guy and Ellie are doing the best they can and will never make everyone happy, but I believe more than 95% of their customers are more than happy. They make no guarantees on when you will receive your knife. But you have a lifetime guarantee on the blade. They put out an excellent product at a bargain price for what you receive. If you think you can run a better business, why not try. I feel bad for them at all the negativity, crying and bitching. You know what you're getting into when you place your order. Keep up the great work and keep putting out a quality product. You obviously have no problem selling out of everything you produce.
 
I have been, and will continue to be a huge fan of S!K. I like the product and the way they represent themselves on this forum.

To Junkyard, Cheers! You may have gotten a little preachy for my taste, but I cannot disagree with a single thing that you said.
 
Seems to me that was pretty well said. Even though I have been a critic. Perhaps a bad one. But my attitude has gotten a lot better since I got the shipping notice. See there? I'm not only a critic, but I'm also extremely fickle. [walks off with head bowed in shame]
 
I absolutely do try to vote with my dollars.. and would much rather support an American company.. esp a small ma/pa shop.
As a Michigander, I have also a nice collection of Bark River knives.. and I have a 7/7 and gso 12 preorder .. and a whole stash of survie I already own.
 
In light of recent ongoings in this forum, I feel compelled to ask, when did we as a society, go off the rails? Was it a specific moment in time, or just a slow decay? A descent into apathy, and debauchery.

I feel that this quote could not be more apropos:

"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat." – THEODORE ROOSEVELT

I feel like it’s time someone said something. Dismiss me as a fanboy if you want, but this has more to do with life, than just business or knives.

Seriously, what has happened to our once Great Nation? When did the masses become the critics instead of the doers of deeds?

Ellie & Guy, You are the ones in the arena. Please reread T.R.’s quote and hold your heads high! You are the type of souls that built our once great Nation! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Please Keep Striving! In my estimation, you have done an excellent job so far, and more than that, you are setting an example for others to follow.

To the critics and spectators, (myself included) whether born from a good natured intent to help, an indulgence in self-gratification by expressing your discontent, or just a desire to tear down and bitch; please reread T.R.’s quote and ask yourself which person you would rather be? Also, please keep in mind that I’m not just referring to Survive Knives, I’m referring to every aspect of our lives, how you perform at work, what you do for recreation, how you talk to your spouse. It’s so easy to fall into the cesspool of negativity, and much more difficult to self-examine, and change course once you have. Endeavor to be a better person. To be positive. To achieve out of reach goals. Concern yourself not with what someone else does or does not do, but attempt to be the best version of yourself.

Stop disparaging others for their efforts. Encourage and support them. Our economy is in the toilet, jobs are moving to other countries. Don’t you think it’s time to start making an effort to support American business? Businesses like Survive! To encourage them to succeed?

At least for the time being, the economic system of our nation is capitalism. Vote with your dollars. If you approve of the way they do things, of the products that they produce, then buy their products. If not, then Don’t. It really is that simple.

This situation, as well as every other should be as simple as one of the kindergarten rules: If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all. Yes, the first Amendment guarantees the right to free speech, and you do have every right to say what you want; but should you? Which are you, the Doer, or the critic?

Don’t bother to respond if you got all butthurt. I don’t want to hear it. Besides, you’ll just further my confirm my thinking. Spend that energy on some serious introspection.

Lastly, I’d like to leave you with a final thought. If you think you have the answer, Shut your pie holster, put your money where your mouth is, and build a better knife and knife company! After all, isn’t that what Guy did/is doing?

Junkyard

All i did was read your intro sentence and I knew you were on the 'Right Track.' No long winded, inevitably berated rant necessary. What we're seeing here, now, is the grand design of the existential Ego's distortion Being compounded by the 'Studied' genius of anyone capable of conducting a google search or perusing internet forums - the modern day, Western guru.

Hell, if you think this is bad, have you considered the Conservative-Evangelical movement that idolatrizes things like Eugenics and the Nazis as they aim to wipe out all who have opposing beliefs? That's right - I've been told left and right I should be deported based off my beliefs(while they ignorantly wave their flag of freedom in the other hand), which of course ties directly to your wonderful quote pointing out that the Hitler's(left his seat at the 1936 Olympics whenever the pure blood Aryan race was losing an event[weird how white conservatives of today think they too are somehow 'Purer' than other Homo sapiens created by their sole God]) and Trumps of the Universe are indeed the weakest types of men, and only the lowliest nonthink morons would elevate to such scum. It's insane and scary, and I'm appalled that I live among these racist bigots that just two generations ago fought for my freedom in World War II along side my grandfather.

Insipid Moniker's(gold member closing in on 5,000 posts) response says it all, Junkyard - that's the highest form of THOUGHT you're routinely going to encounter on internet forums(where moderators sound-off for years on end in their introspective power struggles), and using a winky face at the end of your stupidity does not save you from it; he read what you said, and that's the best his brain had to offer. Such is the habit/routine of 99% of these clamoring jabronis that obsessively love their pathetic internet forums.
 
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