Hi,I'm kind of new to the forums,but I have a question about the knife laws in California. Recently my right hand was amputated. I was in an accident ! Can I legaly carry an automatic knife to help me compensate for my disability. It would give me a chance to carry a cuting tool that I could open and close with my left hand. Thanks, any insight will be greatly appreciated. Rollon..........
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Sorry to hear about your loss. The one hand under 3" blade is only in the Federal law. I have never seen a state law that mentioned it as an exception to the law. There is a Cali Officer that will respond in a few and state for sure in Cali, but you can carry one with an under 2" blade for anyone. I will post the links to the state and federal laws. The federal law does say one ARM, not hand, but I am sure you would be Ok on that part, but it applies to very limited areas (federal holdings only) http://www.knife-expert.com/fedswitch.txt
http://knife-expert.com/ca.txt
http://knife-expert.com/ca.txt
Thank you men. A little disapointing but it will just make me practice with the assisted blades that I own. If anybody has any recomendations on what they would consider the absolute simplest knife to activate and retract. I would greatly appreciate your recomendations. Thanks, It's Good To Be Alive. Nuff said. Rollon.........
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I have a gerber gator. A quick flick of the wrist (with practice) I can open the blade right side up, or upside down. Depress the lock back, back of the blade on the leg (fingers out of the way) and close it. I learned this because I usually had one hand holding something, or holding me onto something while I needed to use the knife at work. I've not cut myself closing the knife, but it takes alot of being careful.
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Would a small fixed blade be out of the question?
I would imagine you want to consider knives that are ambidextrous or left handed. A lot of liner lock knives are very easy to deploy and retract, with the right hand,...left hand,...not so much...
As I prefer non-assisted knives that I can open and close one-handed with either hand, I have found that the following knives are easy to work with: any Benchmade with an Axis lock, any Spyderco with a ball lock, and the Gerber/Lone Wolf Paul knives (which are almost as easy to use left handed as right handed). Some of these will take more practice than others, and some will require a breaking in period. All have the advantage over a lockback that you can close them without putting your fingers in the blade path even momentarily. There are some makers that will make a "left-handed" liner lock, so that's an option too.
As I prefer non-assisted knives that I can open and close one-handed with either hand, I have found that the following knives are easy to work with: any Benchmade with an Axis lock, any Spyderco with a ball lock, and the Gerber/Lone Wolf Paul knives (which are almost as easy to use left handed as right handed). Some of these will take more practice than others, and some will require a breaking in period. All have the advantage over a lockback that you can close them without putting your fingers in the blade path even momentarily. There are some makers that will make a "left-handed" liner lock, so that's an option too.
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axis lock is easier to operate than the spyderco ball lock, which tends to have much higher tension.
this has the added value of not having to put your fingers in the blade cavity to disengage the lock. assuming you were originally right handed, it will take time to get your left dextrous enough to confidently operate a liner or frame lock.
this has the added value of not having to put your fingers in the blade cavity to disengage the lock. assuming you were originally right handed, it will take time to get your left dextrous enough to confidently operate a liner or frame lock.
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I agree that the axis lock is probably your best bet to start with. Remember that an assisted opener can jerk itself out of your hand.
Pull back on an axis bar, twist your wrist, and the blade will fall open. Closing it is just as easy, in reverse.
Pull back on an axis bar, twist your wrist, and the blade will fall open. Closing it is just as easy, in reverse.
I think assisted-openers are harder to close one handed that non-assisted, though I do know a few stranger designs that do ok. I have this model:
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The spring assists in both opening and retraction, though personally I find it safer and more reliable if you take the spring out, which is very easy to do with just a torx wrench and some needle nose pliers. It will open and close with one hand just as easily without the spring, and the slider design takes putting your fingers in the blade path out of the equation.
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The spring assists in both opening and retraction, though personally I find it safer and more reliable if you take the spring out, which is very easy to do with just a torx wrench and some needle nose pliers. It will open and close with one hand just as easily without the spring, and the slider design takes putting your fingers in the blade path out of the equation.
I would like to thank you all for your concern and excelent suggestions . I recently bought a short fixed blade from a fellow on the forums. An entrek badger. I knew nothing about the blade except the discription given. I recevied it and I really like it as an outside tool, it's been very handy so far plus get this. The fellow must have read this thread and sent a sub 2" shrade auto as a gift. And as it worked out that little knife is so easy to use and extremly useful. I am so grateful to that nice guy. I am very impresed by the people I have had the good fortune in dealing with in the blade forums community. So as of now I am edc'ing that little shrade, and a smooth as butter benchmade 940. Well thanks.For all the comments and good advice. If anybody is intrested I'll let you know how things are going in the physicaly challenged universe. Thanks, and God Bless.. Rollon.
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would there need to be? i'm not disagreeing, just trying to better understand the relationship between local and federal laws.
i was always under the impression that a state could raise the amount of protection a civilain is given by the federal gvt, but could NOT lower it. so, if a one armed man is protected from switchblade laws by a FEDERAL disabilities act, wouldn't it be impossible to prosecute him on a local level?
i mean, states have to abide by the paremeters set forth by supreme court decisions in regards to search and seizure, so it seems like the state would be held back in this instance. am i misunderstanding it?
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from the standpoint of banned or controlled items, state laws may be more stringent, but not more lenient, than federal laws.
if the exemption came under a federal disabilities act rather than a commerce law, i would agree no prosecution could be sought.
as it is, under u.s. code, i honestly don't know.
This Federal law only has jurisdiction in federal holdings with reguards to possession, so the exception can only be applied to where the law is enforcable. The wording is not granting a federal protection as much as it is allows a condition where the federal law does have an exception.
Read the law with what I explained and I think you will agree:
Section 1243. Manufacture, sale, or possession within specific jurisdictions; penalty
Whoever, within any Territory or possession of the United States,
within Indian country (as defined in section 1151 of title 18), or
within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the
United States (as defined in section 7 of title 18), manufactures,
sells, or possesses any switchblade knife, shall be fined not more
than $2,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
Section 1244. Exceptions
Sections 1242 and 1243 of this title shall not apply to -
(1) any common carrier or contract carrier, with respect to any
switchblade knife shipped, transported, or delivered for shipment
in interstate commerce in the ordinary course of business;
(2) the manufacture, sale, transportation, distribution,
possession, or introduction into interstate commerce, of
switchblade knives pursuant to contract with the Armed Forces;
(3) the Armed Forces or any member or employee thereof acting
in the performance of his duty; or
(4) the possession, and transportation upon his person, of any
switchblade knife with a blade three inches or less in length by
any individual who has only one arm.
Read the law with what I explained and I think you will agree:
Section 1243. Manufacture, sale, or possession within specific jurisdictions; penalty
Whoever, within any Territory or possession of the United States,
within Indian country (as defined in section 1151 of title 18), or
within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the
United States (as defined in section 7 of title 18), manufactures,
sells, or possesses any switchblade knife, shall be fined not more
than $2,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
Section 1244. Exceptions
Sections 1242 and 1243 of this title shall not apply to -
(1) any common carrier or contract carrier, with respect to any
switchblade knife shipped, transported, or delivered for shipment
in interstate commerce in the ordinary course of business;
(2) the manufacture, sale, transportation, distribution,
possession, or introduction into interstate commerce, of
switchblade knives pursuant to contract with the Armed Forces;
(3) the Armed Forces or any member or employee thereof acting
in the performance of his duty; or
(4) the possession, and transportation upon his person, of any
switchblade knife with a blade three inches or less in length by
any individual who has only one arm.
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I have a question and i dont really know where to put this
I am from Europe belgium, and unfortanetly, i speak Dutch, english and some french, but not that much
So my question really is, where can I post then my experience, or questions? since the English section is not that big
Regards
Circaflex
I am from Europe belgium, and unfortanetly, i speak Dutch, english and some french, but not that much
So my question really is, where can I post then my experience, or questions? since the English section is not that big
Regards
Circaflex
The Spyderco UK Pen Knife is about the most simple knife I know of. It's a slip joint with no lock to get in the way and it opens and closes real easy with one hand. Even though it's non locking it's very high quality with an S30V blade and it's really light and plenty capable for an EDC blade.
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I Broke my hand recently and couldn't use my right hand at all,(I'm right handed). with my left hand, I am able to grab my spyderco tenacious by the hole with two fingers, and use the weight of the handle to flick open the knife. I was also able to move the pocket clip so that I could more easily access my knife.