A shoe story

Kohai999

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Hello All,

Back about 7 years ago, I was a supervisor at a Telephone Call Center, working for TCI. I had to wear the "symbol of authority" tie, shirt and decent pants. I needed to get some decent shoes to go with this, so I did not look like a dork. I settled on the Rockport Pro Walker, which I purchased at Nordstrom for around 60.00. Most of the shoes that I had worn up to this point were either sneakers, or combat boot variants. I am 5'6" and weighed about 155 lbs at the time, and my feet were taking a beating.

Socks, I already knew about, I started out with Smartwool hikers, and now wear Wigwam Merino heavy hikers. They look cool, too. But, I digress.

I separated the upper of the shoe substantially from the sole in about 3 months, the Rockport in that model is a glued on sole. I took them back to Nordstrom, and upgraded to a Clark dress/casual shoe. This lasted for about 6 weeks, because the last that the shoe was formed on did not work for the width of my fit (size 8 1/2, E) and was forming some crippling pressure points. On a 9 hour shift, I was on my feet for about 6 hours, especially during the 2 p.m. to 11 p.m. shift.

Back to Nordstrom, and tried on a bunch of shoes, and found a Ecco City Cap toe that I liked very much, looked great, fit very well, and worked for the purpose. I purchased this shoe and was happy with it for 6 + years. Ecco discontinued this particular style, replacing it with another, less comely shoe, so I purchased a few more different pairs of Eccos, and relegated this shoe to the "special occasion, and wanting to look sharp" category.

At the end of August, I had to walk a trade show in Las Vegas, and my attractive (not really to me, but I can see how she would be to others) female boss, and I decided to go to Picasso at Bellagio for dinner.

Great dinner, great view, great ambiance, would totally do it again. As I am walking out of Bellagio in my especially sharp shoes, I realize that I am leaving chunks (large) of shoe sole on the cultured marble floor. As in, my shoes are deconstructing themselves. I have had this happen once before, with a pair of Bates Lights, apparently there is a very specific shoe compound that has a "shelf life". I think this is total BS.

Anyway, I called Ecco, and they are replacing the shoes, which is very cool. What is not very cool is that they self destructed in the first place, and that the customer service agent that I spoke with on the phone today at 603-537-7300, located in Londonderry, NH, sucked balls.

What I am looking for here, from her, is a little bit of sympathy for my situation, and some consultative assistance in picking out a new pair of shoes. Nordstrom selection right now is not the most comprehensive, and I already have 3 other pairs of differing models of Eccos. Yes, I am more than a little OC, but that is not the point. The point is that the customer service agent was not knowledgable about the line of shoes, did not offer to find me someone who could help me, and basically, just sucked.

The moral of my story is that next time I need good shoes, I am getting another pair of Allen-Edmonds, Johnston-Murphy, or my first pair of Mephisto's. All of these shoes can be rebuilt.

I take care of my stuff, I expect it to last a long time. I am finally giving up on a pair of boots that I have had for 23 years (old school Timberland's) and an old blue pair of Doc Marten's that got chewed on by my bros' dog in 1994. The toe box on the Doc's just pretty much gave out.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I'll wear HHBrown Jump boots or my Matterhorns with everything including suits.
Right now I'm wearing a pair of chippewa work boots from sportsmans guide made from a brushed leather that I've worn for about 6 months straight now, and I cover at least two miles of new york city concrete every day. I understand that they have a pair made of buffalo skin which I hear is much stronger. The ability to resole these boots make them an even greater value.
 
Hiya Steven,
have you tried the shoes made out of Buffalo from H. S. Trask?
they have a longer life than the shoes that you mention.
You can sometimes pick them up on the cheap from Campmor or Sierra Trading Post. Some Nordstrom stores also carry them, especiall the ones in the Western states.

They are comfortable from the git-go (very important), and look good enough to wear with a suit.

l'shana tova tikotav v'tchatam, yedidi.
 
Nowadays i exclusively wear elastic sided boots. All of 'em direct from Australia. For formal wear i just got my mom to get me another pair of RM Williams turnout boots for the dressy occasion. Right now i have 1 formal wear shoe which is by Cheaney's i think. They're handmade and surprisingly very comfortable.

For work wear i'd go with Redbacks, Blundstones or Rossi's. All of 'em can't be deconstructed but they're cheap enough to buy another one when one of 'em goes. And their styling's have been the same for quite some time now so no problem getting the same models.

If you want comfy work boots have a look at Redbacks. They're all made extra wide to accomodate thicker socks.

My RM Williams are repairable though. Just send it back to 'em and they'll do whatever they can to repair it.
 
This is yet another sample of how we are living in a disposable society. There is no pride of workmanship anymore, why should there be, the product is designed to fall apart. If it were made to last a long time they might make less money.

I too have felt dismay at the shoe industry. Before I retired I was a machinest, and I spent most of my 8 hour shift on my feet in front of a mill or lathe. Good comfortable footwear could be found, but it was all short duration. New Balance athletic shoes lasted about 5-6 months, Rockports about 6 months, Timberlands fell apart in 4 months and the store gave me another pair that was the same. I'll never touch them again!

Finally I spent some heavy money and got a pair of Danner Work boots. AAHHH! Great support, and lasted 4 years untill I retired. Best 200 dollars I ever spent.

Now I'm not in a shop, but the old lady and I like to walk but I need a good pair of comfy shoes and I have thought about Mephistos. I've heard about them but have not tried them yet.
 
I got 6 or 7 pais of Ecco's on closeout, something like $40 each pair. Very comfortable, but I experienced the self destructing thing just like you (though it took longer for me)

I got a pair of similar from Nunn Bush, not as upscale as wht you're looking at though.
 
I loved the Rockports, but they didn't last all that long. I had the same problem as you did with my Bates, with the sole decomposing.

I now have Redwing dress shoes. They can be had in EEEE. The shoe salesman (and this is a 'real' shoe salesman, he actually knows what he's talking about) said the Redwings were the best choice for the width of my foot and the heft :mad: of my body. To his credit, he did not mention my size until I asked him what would be better for a 300 pounder.
 
Mutt,

Chippewas are another boot/shoe cut on a last that does not agree with my foot. For boots, I have had great luck with Hi-tec, I get at least 4-5 years wear out of them, and I also have some Thorogoods, that I love. I just prefer not to wear boots with a suit, unless it is raining/snowing.

Temper-The Church's look really nice, but I'm not seeing anything that shows them to be superior to Allen-Edmonds, which are also hand built, available here, and great customer service.

Shaldaq-I have a pair of Trask slippers, and was not impressed with the quality.

The Eccos have some sort of plastic sole that was very comfortable. I do prefer a plastic sole to a leather sole for comfort and durability, not to mention slippage relief when it is raining. I will take a serious look a the RedWings.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
cockroachfarm said:
I guess you've never had to buy them in Canada, then? :(

I ordered a lot of my aussie boots from this dude.
http://aussaver.tripod.com/id3.html

Quite cheap considering that he charges a single postage fee. 1 shoe or 20 shoes, same postage. So i ordered 3 boots from him straight away. Right now i'm feeling that the Rossi's are a bit nicer than the Blundstone's. Redback probably nicest. They can't be resoled but for that price i'd just buy another. And since i've been using 'em i don't see much deterioration to the soles. Still looks brand new. Of course i actually alternate between my shoes a lot.
 
Steve.......I have a few pair of Ecco's and I find them comfortable, but if you want to spend the money , Mephisto's are the most comfortable shoes I ever had. There great for walking.
 
Larry B. said:
Steve.......I have a few pair of Ecco's and I find them comfortable, but if you want to spend the money , Mephisto's are the most comfortable shoes I ever had. There great for walking.

Mephisto's are highly spoken of. They also retail for about $400.00, which is about double the cost of Ecco.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
If you check around Steve you will find there are places that discount Mephisto's just as there are places that discount Ecco's.
 
STeven, why not try shoes by Doc Martens? While most of the styles are not one commonly associates with business dress, they do have some plain toe and wing tip styles that would go with much anything.

The shoes have an air bladder insole, similar to, but not exactly like Air Nike sneakers. Because of that, I'm not sure how well they handle being resoled.
The upside is I have a pair two years old, or older and they're still going strong. They don't self destruct like some of the other brands mentioned.

I've been impressed with them to the point they are all I wear at work now. I currently rotate five pairs of Docs and am considering pair number six down the road.
 
If you have short fat feet like I do, invest in a pair of shoe stretchers. Most shoes and boots can be stretched up to two width sizes (within reason).
 
Allright, promise you won't laugh or snicker and point at me... I wear Birkenstocks almost all the time. I am on my feet constantly, have both wide feet and high arches, and ain't exactly described as "dainty". Birks are one of two brands that I can wear. Yep, they are butt-ugly. Yep, granola-heads etc. wear them. But my feet are still relatively happy at the end of the day.

The other brand that I will/can wear are the shoes and boots by Filson. I have both the Uplander boots and one of the shoes. They have a removable cork insert that molds to your feet. You can also buy replacement inserts, possibly these can be used in other shoes. I have worn the same pair of Filson boots hunting for 5 years now, and they are like wearing a glove. My Filson shoes are great too, I switch to them in the winter as my Birks are slip-ons.
 
I have 3 pairs that I have worn for over 6 years. A pair of gripfasts made in England(similar to Doc Martens) with a toe cap and steel toes. And 2 pairs of Doc Martens, one of which I have had resoled once. They have "bouncing souls" as it says on them and as previously stated it is because of the air blader inside them. All were wingtips and look great with a suit. They also have a thick sole so it will give you a little height!!

link to gripfasts

doc martens

How about these?
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I might buy these for myself.

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MelancholyMutt said:
If you have short fat feet like I do, invest in a pair of shoe stretchers. Most shoes and boots can be stretched up to two width sizes (within reason).

You should try Australian shoes. That's why i'm using 'em. Their half size is wider not longer. Plus shoes like Redbacks are made wider in the first place to accomodate wearing thicker socks. I've got a longer but narrower right foot and a short but wider left foot so it's a bit difficult. I find Australian shoes to be the best fit. Must be the last they use. More in line with my foot shape.
 
Kohai999 said:
Mephisto's are highly spoken of. They also retail for about $400.00, which is about double the cost of Ecco.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson

Be careful buying Mephistos. I've had two pairs and one was great (I still have them) and the other was so-so. They used to be all handmade in France, now some of them are made "elsewhere" - Portugal, CHINA!!!!

Why pay $200+ for a pair of shoes made in China!?!?! These are usually their shoes that look more like runners or trail walkers (nylon, leather mix).

Check the inside and make sure they are from France. ASK them if they can be resoled! $300+ walking shoes better be resolable!

BillB
 
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