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A weekend with the Scouts

DerekH

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Well, this last weekend we spent out at a local place called Plum Orchard Lake. Really nice area, lots of mountains and trees, a good sized lake, and an outdoor shooting range open to the public. The plan this time out was to not give them an agenda, but rather to let them get out and do whatever they felt like doing for a change. Only planned activities were some shooting of .22's, fishing, and a brief showing of some traps and snares and how they work. I was on the traps and snare duty with George, the Scoutmaster for one of the other local troops (we had our troop and his there) and we each made two traps and showed how they worked. For my two, I used the BK16 that was on my hip all weekend and my folding saw, and I got a good feel for how it worked, and just how capable it was. Unfortunately, I don't have any pics of it actually doing anything because the missus stole the camera, so while I have a few from my phone, I don't have many, and the ones I do have are all of the traps. I will get some good photos of the 16 up here in the next few days though. Anyways, the traps.

First up, the L7 Spring Snare, done by myself

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Next, a Paiute Deadfall put up by George

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Some trap whose name I cannot remember, but pretty sure I saw it on Dave Caterbury's YouTube channel at some point

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And lastly a two split ring trigger George combined with a trip line and some coke cans filled with gravel as a warning system

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It was an interesting turn out since no one was *required* to come check it out, but there were a few that really, really took a liking to what we were showing them. Afterwards, there were a number of traps strung up all over the place. And a little later, a number of kids strung up all over the place. All in all, a good time, and some quality learning was done by the kids. George said his split ring trigger was on a little sheet of info included with his Izula 2, and I was pretty impressed by it. The stick held the engine in place, and was attached by a piece of fishing line to a tree. I will be honest, I got caught in it even though I knew it was there.

The downside to the trip was that it rained almost non-stop from Saturday afternoon all the way through when we left Sunday morning. I took my bag of Beckers and the other troop got to see them all, and really enjoyed them, although the favorites were the BK16 by a landslide, with the BK14 and the BK5 being a ways behind that. The 16 was handled by several of the adult leaders, several of which were LEO's or active military, and was the clear favorite of all that held it.
 
Good stuff. I wish I had a chance to be in the scouts as a kid, especially for trap making. I've learned a few from the interweb but some still elude me. I can't figure out for the life of me how a snare works. It seems to defy physics with all that tension on a sapling and just a small trigger. Doesn't make sense. But that's also because I've never had anyone build one right in front of me. Is it too late to join your troop?
 
Awesome! I'm glad to hear that a bunch of the youngins' were into the trap making stuff. Definitely a skill more of us should know. I'll be honest, I've never set a trap other than a mouse trap in my garage.
 
I need to work on my trap skills. What's the cutoff for scouting again? Haha.
 
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Wish my troop taught us how to make snares,
Looks like a nice time, I always love going on trips with the troop, my leader is pretty good about letting me use my "real" knives, not just cheap folders:D


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Ok, I made a joke about joining Derek's troop for my last year of Boy Scouting in another thread, but now I'm serious, you are the first person involved with scouting I've met that not only allows, but advocates fixed blade knives.

It sounds and looks like you had a ton of fun and your Scouts had even more fun, and the Scouters had more fun than the Scouts.

I think you had a better weekend than I did out in the Everglades, My crew and one person from the attached troop paddled to Hell with it all, and back. Hell's bay was a "3 mile" trek, through Mangrove mazes, which made it more like 5 miles, and slept on a chikee, and got dive bombed by huge deer flies all night, still had a ton of fun. Though we didn't have rain.

Off Topic Rant: There is only one troop I've met down here that knows what real knives are, and I've met some that outlaw anything pointy period.... Nor have I found a camp that knows what national says about knives either.

What's even worse is if you mention traps or hunting to most scouts or scouters down here, you start hearing the static buzz from a TV, no one knows how to set any..... And even I'm guilty of that sadly.
 
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Great job Derek! It is great to teach kids skills like this.

I have made a few traps like the third one down. With the right sapling it kicks like a mule when it is set off.

I need to find out more about the split ring trigger. That looks cool.

Jeremy
 
Thanks everyone! It was a lot of fun, and I enjoy getting to help them become young men with as much knowledge as we can cram into their skulls. Turns out George is on Bladeforums, and I am trying to get him over this direction. He was quite taken with the BK5 I hear, and was even more intrigued by the idea of the BK15. Maybe some friendly messages left might encourage him to head this way and try his hand at a challenge or two? (Sorry George, the underside of the bus is calling your name.)

Go see if you can motivate the man to get over here and drink some of the kool-aid folks!

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/member.php/312403-BPrepared304

While your at it, see if you can get our Scoutmaster to get in on some of this stuff too! He was in here for a bit, but I think he lost his way.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/member.php/296926-jamesobowen
 
I have always felt America's youth don't know enough about making traps.
 
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