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Oku

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Hey Gang!!

One of your bretheren has graciously consented to let me make a few extra sheaths with his Desert AB!

If you are interested please let me know ASAP so I can send the little fella home soonest. He hasn't even met "daddy" yet!

I can be reached at: 253-906-5306

info@okuden.net

okuden@earthlink.net
 
:D Yup, Woodstock........erm, I seem a little fuzzy about it though. Was there like a band there or something??:o

"If You Remember Woodstock......you probably werent there!"

Ah, tannic acid, those were the days when they left some in the leather for us to enjoy! All those lost hours spent floating around the shop........now I have to rely on the old contact cement....uh....what was the question???:p

sheesh, everyone getting their DAB's, I still havent seen mine....:(
 
Oh Yea!! Thats the stuff!!!!!!:D My infi fix is on the way! Now I can quit letting the contact cement dry......out........... uh, whats the question???:p
 
Tannic acid is a byproduct of the tanning process. Unless of course it has changed sigificantly (leather guys, current info?).

When leather gets wet, it can release tannic acid which will cause oxidation on your steel. It's why most folks don't like to store firearms and knives in leather.

Granted, I am biased! But these are the facts. There may have been sufficient progress in tanning processes and leather treatment of which I am unaware, and I hope that if processes have been changed someone will throw me a clue.

I have nothing against leather.

Jan,

E-mail sent!
 
Alls I know is my uncle made belt loops for 45 Colt bullets, and after leaving them in there a long time, the brass looked ugly.

Still shot well though.

Mmm. Kydex: Good for cosmetics. ;)
 
Originally posted by Dark Nemesis
What is tannic acid?
Its not so much the by product of the process as it is what makes the process. The tannic acid or tannin comes from the bark of a certain oak, cant remember which, which is soaked in solution. The raw hide is then immersed in the solution for a predetermined amount of time. When it comes back out the rawhide is chemically converted to leather! Its thouroughly rinsed, this is the key, and dried. The amount of tanin left in the leather is what makes it corrode metals. The quality of the leather has a lot to do with the amount of tannin left in it, the lower qualities are more likely to have a bit left in, the higher qualities are less likely. I had some really cheap stuff a few years back that I soaked in warm water for a few hours.....the water looked like tea!:eek:
Now as for leathers, you have oak tanned, therefore tannin cured, then there is vegitable tanned which doesnt have as much in the way of acids in the tanning fluid and is rinsed better as long as the quality is there. Others are oil tanned, there is a fine line here watch out for these, some are chrome tanned and then heavily oiled. Chrome tanning uses chromium salts and they do remain in the leather and will corrode metal very quickly.
Now as for storage of blades in leather, I have 1095 steel blades that have been stored untreated in my sheaths for months with no adverse effects and I live in a humid area. Now the same leather will put a patina on brass and or copper. Dunno. I dont tend to worry about my leatherwork because I spend way too much on leather and I hand pick it as well, so I know what I am getting and what I am selling. When you do your own personal work I suggest you spend the extra money and get #1 grade leather, its worth it.
Its good to know your materials, like what kydex does to beadblast blades.... :D ;) :p
 
Originally posted by leatherman


Its good to know your materials, like what kydex does to beadblast blades.... :D ;) :p

Not a thing! :)

Thanks for the info! If I read correctly, material makes all the difference.

Folks, it does indeed pay to know your craftsman!

Edited to add:

Pic is comming!
 
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