able to fix my spyderco ATS_55 ?

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i have had this little POLICE folder for almost 14 yrs and has worked awsome for me .
it even has been deployed with me for months on end ..it means alot to me and i dont really want a new one just fix the blade .
It seems the Alaska cold was too much for it last year and broke the blade in half in -40* cutting a stuck ratchet strap .

i have emailed Spyderco and they were less than helpful ..just told me sorry i have to buy a new one .. when i bought way back when, i was told about their awsome warranty against breakage .. has something changed since ?

i really like this old knife and has suited me very well ..hope to get it fixed .

thanks
wayne
 
My experience with Spyderco's warranty has been hot and cold. I had a lock start to slip on a Military, and they replaced it without issue. I had a Police model develop up and down and side to side play, and they said it would not be covered. Neither knife had ever been used hard or abused.

If they won't fix it, maybe STR over in the makers area can help you. I'm a fixed blade guy myself, but I know he does alot of work with folders. I'm not sure of what he will or won't tackle. Look him up. It can't hurt to ask.
Good luck,
Scott
 
The Police model was switched to VG-10 steel a few years back, so I doubt they would have any ATS-55 blades left. From what I have seen, I don't think they even have any ATS-55 steel left to make a blade from. Add in the pinned construction and it leaves you with a knife that would cost more to repair than replace. And if by "little Police model" you mean a Rookie, they have been discontinued for almost a decade, and I'm sure there wouldn't be any parts available.

As far as changes of policy go, I seem to recall Sal Glesser posting that there were too many knives being returned for replacement due to abuse and the policy had to be changed. It is still stated as "fair and reasonable", which I believe it is.

Not trying to put words in Sal's mouth, but my personal opinion for whatever it is worth would be fourteen years is a good run for a production knife. I'd say give it an honorable retirement and buy a replacement.
 
i'm also a fixed blade kind of guy , but this folder was a gift from the wife just before i deployed ..

this is the large police model with half serated edge . it got me home safe twice from a miserable place and never shown any kind of wear other than scatches on the stainless from living in my pocket for 14 years ..

thanks for the help ..was hoping for some insider help and info ..

i cant believe they want 180 bucks for a replacement !!
 
Shop around. I think I gave $75 for my VG-10 PE Police. It was secondhand, but unused.
 
i found a few on ebay for a 100 bucks i guess i have retire it ..major bummer .. i had alot of history with that folder .

i guess their warranty and customer service really aint worth squat .
 
i found a few on ebay for a 100 bucks i guess i have retire it ..major bummer .. i had alot of history with that folder .

i guess their warranty and customer service really aint worth squat .


I got a new Endura Wave with what I considered excessive blade play and within a couple weeks had a new one with no play. That is great customer service. A 14 year old knife with pinned construction without any blades of that vintage in inventory isn't a good choice for warantee replacement, IMO. I understand being pissed, but try to look at the big picture. They don't know if you used it as a prybar and most likely don't have a blade that would even work in it (their website says as much about not being able to replace most blades, and they haven't used ATS 55 in years). Spyderco makes lots of minor tweaks to their designs over the years, and who knows if a new VG-10 blade would even fit and function properly in your knife. Maybe some manufacturers would cover this, and that would be great, but I don't think any other company selling a knife like that at that price point would, but I could be wrong.

Mike
 
I just bought a SS Police fully serrated for 80$ today on the exchange.

14 years seems pretty reasonable especially if it gets as cold in Alaska as it does here in saskatchawan(-50c)? Steel gets very brittle at that temp and lateral (sideways) stress on the blade is usually considered abuse.
 
today at my favorite gun store they had the Persian spyderco on the shelf i think i found its replacement very sharp looking peice and felt good in the hand as well ..

i think payday it will be mine .. at the px today they wanted almost 185 bucks for the new police ... man i paid 100 bucks when i got it 1st time and i thought that was alot for pocket knife ... i guess you get what you pay for these days ..
 
There was a new Police on eBay last night with a Buy it Now of $73.99 from a dealer I have bought from a couple of times. It was even a combo edge.
 
if i find another deal like that i will snag it , and i will still get that persain what a sweet peice .
 
Wayne what sucks about the spyderco warranty and repair, is that Glesser. owner/president/spokesman changed it. You bought a knife that 14 years ago would have been replaced if the blade had broken in normal use. Sure they say it can't be repaired, but in the old days Spyderco would have given you a new knife (if they still make the brand) or an equivalent knife, if the original is out of production.

It was a LIFETIME warranty/repair not a 14 year one. You paid for this warranty and then Spyderco got in financial trouble, or wanted to squeeze more money out of their firm, and changed the warranty. You, me and others have had the same complaint.

For example, they used to fix their integral clip knives for free due to the design flaw of the clip breaking. Not anymore, they charge for this. They replaced a Jot for me in 1999 with blade play by giving me another knife, since it wasn't in production. Now if you have problems with the Jot (which Glasser admits had design and execution flaws that are Spyderco's responsibility) they say "sorry charlie" and won't replace it. Now the Jot's been out production for 7 years and the spydercultists say "what do you expect it's old and you shouldn't expect it to be fixed or replaiced" However, I know of two stores where you can buy a Jot brand new with the original warranty still in the box. That original newly bought spyderco warranty isn't worth a hoot, because Spyderco won't honor it. Not clear to me how a warranty/repair policy posted on a website would trump the policy you got when you bought the blade.

Maybe if you still had the box that gave the warranty/free repair policy, you could force them to honor their original contract, but I doubt it.

However, spyderco buyers should understand that the service they get today can and has been denied in the future when Glesser decides they need more profit or its too much trouble to provide the service.

By the way, just because it's pinned doesn't mean it can't be fixed and even look as good as new. This is another fallacy put forward by spyderco because they don't really have a repair shop. Ask any knifemaker if they can replace a pinned blade in a stainless steel handle and they'll say yes. Ask them if you'd be able to tell if its been fixed and they'll say sure, but you'll have to look real close and know what to look for. Spyderco doesn't have the parts, the will or the skill in their repair shop to fix pinned knives.

By the way, just because it's fourteen years old doen't mean spyderco shouldn't be stocking parts for a high production, hard use, costly knife. Bechmade replaced a blade on a 10 year old knife (Bogezewski designed Spike) last year (knife out of production for about 8 years) and charged only $20. That's about what spyderco would charge for a sharpen and buff. Lord only knows what they wouldl charge to replace a blade.
 
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