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About to reprofile S110V manix, suggestions?

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So I'm going to sharpen the S110V Manix 2 today, and am wondering what other people did that worked for them? I was thinking a 30 degree inclusive bevel going to a 1000 grit stone on the edge pro. However that may be a little too fine as the factory edge seems to be much coarser. I have not been successful with microbevels, and will not be trying that.

I will be using an Edge pro with the standard EP stones.
 
I would stop at 600 I think S110V does not get much better the finer you go.
 
I reprofiled my S110V Native@ 13.5 degrees per side and went up to 1000 grit on WE, than put microbevel @ 40 using with few light strokes on flats of SM medium rods.
 
I initially sharpened mine to 30 degrees inclusive on an EP, went through my 240-600 grit silicon carbide stones which did well, then it took a long time to polish it up with finer Aluminum oxide and 1500 grit ceramic, they just barely cut, and take forever to grind the burr down. Finally power strop on a leather belt loaded with green compound on a 1x30 belt sander which leaves a nice micro-convex bevel. First sharpening ended up having too much burr left after I was certain I had ground it down, and it rolled over dull after just a few light tasks. After I got it right it was very sharp, but didn't hold it as long as I thought it would, didn't wear the edge, but seemed to roll in spots the "bright lines and spots" when looking at the edge under a light. Seems to behave and sharpen like S30V(although much slower to sharpen or wear), great working edge holding, OK fine edge, will get plenty sharp, burr builds easy, but tough to grind and shape well, doesn't take a fine polish well.

I ended up going to a simpler "working edge" of 35 inclusive and stopping after the 400 grit SiC stone(grinding the burr down with only 3 or 4 passes against the edge, then flipping), power stropping to smooth it out and shape the burr, and it is MUCH better than the fine edge. It bites into harder materials like zip-ties, still slices paper and cardboard as well as the polished edge, and seems far more resistant to edge damage. On some thin hollow ground edges I can tell the difference, but the FFG Manix2 is relatively thick behind the edge, which is the real limitation on how well it slices, but it's a tough little folder, and IMO better suited to a tougher toothier working edge that will stay sharp for a really long time.
 
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Don't mean to Hijack but could this knife be effectively maintained with a sharpmaker and only the medium and fine rods?
 
Don't mean to Hijack but could this knife be effectively maintained with a sharpmaker and only the medium and fine rods?

Effectively, sure, but it might take you a while longer than some of the other stuff you might be used to on the SharpMaker.
Spyderco's SuperBlue is the only steel I've had a really hard time with on the SM.
 
I really did a number on the factory edge of my dark blue Manix 2 and it took me almost an hour on the 200 grit EP stones to start to get an edge back.
Once it did tho, I took it all the way up to 10k and the edge on this thing is outstanding. I'm loving the s100v so far. Looking forward to any future Spyderco offerings in this steel (Yojimbo sprint...?)
 
Don't mean to Hijack but could this knife be effectively maintained with a sharpmaker and only the medium and fine rods?

Definitely. I've been making a point to use mine hard at work so I touched mine up last week using the brown medium rods and didn't notice it taking any longer or have any issues. Like any knife, don't let it get destroyed before using the Sharpmaker. Reprofiling would probably be a bear, but touching up the edge was nothing to worry about.
 
I initially sharpened mine to 30 degrees inclusive on an EP, went through my 240-600 grit silicon carbide stones which did well, then it took a long time to polish it up with finer Aluminum oxide and 1500 grit ceramic, they just barely cut, and take forever to grind the burr down. Finally power strop on a leather belt loaded with green compound on a 1x30 belt sander which leaves a nice micro-convex bevel. First sharpening ended up having too much burr left after I was certain I had ground it down, and it rolled over dull after just a few light tasks. After I got it right it was very sharp, but didn't hold it as long as I thought it would, didn't wear the edge, but seemed to roll in spots the "bright lines and spots" when looking at the edge under a light. Seems to behave and sharpen like S30V(although much slower to sharpen or wear), great working edge holding, OK fine edge, will get plenty sharp, burr builds easy, but tough to grind and shape well, doesn't take a fine polish well.

I ended up going to a simpler "working edge" of 35 inclusive and stopping after the 400 grit SiC stone(grinding the burr down with only 3 or 4 passes against the edge, then flipping), power stropping to smooth it out and shape the burr, and it is MUCH better than the fine edge. It bites into harder materials like zip-ties, still slices paper and cardboard as well as the polished edge, and seems far more resistant to edge damage. On some thin hollow ground edges I can tell the difference, but the FFG Manix2 is relatively thick behind the edge, which is the real limitation on how well it slices, but it's a tough little folder, and IMO better suited to a tougher toothier working edge that will stay sharp for a really long time.

...nerd

Mine's been working pretty well with a 600 grit stone @ 35 inclusive, followed by a loaded strop to knock the burr down. I also noticed that the very fine edge holding seems weird with this. I can get it super shaving sharp to the point of easily slicing paper towels cleanly, do some work, and it's barely shaving sharp...but will hold at that barely shaving sharp essentially forever. I'm not sure if there's an edge stability issue with all the carbides in this or what. It is cool to be able to not have to worry about having a knife that's "sharp enough" for 99% of tasks though. As the knife goes, it's loosened up a LOT since I first got it. It's still not the pendulum-swinger that the digicam PM you got me is, but it's easy to flip closed with one hand now.

edit: I think I figured it out. cpm-s110v just plain didn't respond to the strop like the other knives I have do. While Stropping it straightened and reduced the burr, I didn't get the edge perfectly clean. The burr would fold a bit and make it seem like it lost its razor-sharpness earlier than it had. I went back to the strop and gave it more love and now the edge is sharper, and it's held the same level of sharpness without the quick jump down like before. It seems finishing the edge just needed a LOT more time than I thought.
 
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I really did a number on the factory edge of my dark blue Manix 2 and it took me almost an hour on the 200 grit EP stones to start to get an edge back.
Once it did tho, I took it all the way up to 10k and the edge on this thing is outstanding. I'm loving the s100v so far. Looking forward to any future Spyderco offerings in this steel (Yojimbo sprint...?)
Use the 120 grit stone. Starting with 220 isn't the best idea.
Could you PM how you "touch up" with your SM?
Same as other steels, just do not let it get dull in the first place.
 
I took mine to 15º per side with my dmt stones.

Stopped at 1200 then stropped on a diamond loaded strop.

I've cut a ton of stuff up with it and it's still sharp as hell
 
Rev, I would use 120 if I had any.
The EPA set I purchased only came with 220 and 400 (or 440?).
My dark blue Manix 2 experience has made me seriously consider investing in a 120 stone, or two :P
 
Use the 120 grit stone. Starting with 220 isn't the best idea.

I concur...

With regards to maintaining it on the SM, I would say yes provided you reprofiled before and its possible to hit the edge with the stones at either 30 or 40 deg. (my factory bevel was about 50 deg in places, so I had to reprofile).

I would not attempt a reprofile of S110V on the SM with the brown rods. It might be possible, but its also possible to cycle from South Africa to Europe... Possible but not recommended.
 
Well here is my take on it.

The bevels are pretty close to 15 DPS already, I used a 320 Grit Congress Moldmaster to reprofile mine, didn't take long, something like 10 mins. Mine was about 18 DPS or so....

Before as in out of box......

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This is after reprofiling, testing etc.


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So I'm going to sharpen the S110V Manix 2 today, and am wondering what other people did that worked for them? I was thinking a 30 degree inclusive bevel going to a 1000 grit stone on the edge pro. However that may be a little too fine as the factory edge seems to be much coarser. I have not been successful with microbevels, and will not be trying that.

I will be using an Edge pro with the standard EP stones.


Start with the 120, it will be fast, then move to the 220, then the 400 and stop there. :)
 
The Atoma 140 diamond plate for the Edgepro is what I would recommend. I am short on patience though.:)
 
Don't mean to Hijack but could this knife be effectively maintained with a sharpmaker and only the medium and fine rods?

I use the SM and it worked just fine with the new Manix I have. I would strongly recommend getting the Diamond rods though.
 
I found mine to be quite close to 15dps right out of the box. I put it on the WE just to even everything up. I used the WE Diamond stones. Started at 100 and worked through. Didn't find it any tougher than any other steel. I took mine all the way down to .5 microns with paste and a strop. Just because I'm OCD. I think it would be a freaky, nasty slicer at about 400-600 on the WE diamonds. That's about where Ankerson runs his I believe. A tiny bit of "tooth" to let those carbides work would be amazing. It's all personal preference.
 
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