Acid Etch + Stonewash Durability?

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I just had a knife acid etched and stonewashed (shout out to Razor Edge Knives!) and was curious about the longevity of this finish.

Does this tend to get worn smooth through use and get a glossy finish/lose the darkened look from the acid etch or does it hold up pretty well? I'm not really worried about using it or anything but was wondering if this finish keeps it's dull dark look even after rubbing against abrasive material like cardboard.

Any experiences?
 
It usually should keep the look pretty well, and honestly not any worse than any coating that I know of from my experience with some acid etching. Honestly it probably holds up a little better than most PVD coated blades I know of, and probably about the same as a cerakote, but without the issue of material and dirt getting caught in the texture of the finish.

The acid stonewash is usually a pretty smooth finish in and of itself anyway, so it doesn't have much texture to allow for wear when cutting as well, and you don't have to wipe and clean it as much. Also keeps your blade from corroding, since the actual finish is a kind of patina.
 
You can get rust on acid etched knives just like you would another finish. I would expect it to corrode more easily than stonewashed finishes without the acid etch step.

I think whether it will wear depends on how it was done.
 
That etched blade tumbles in stones / ceramics / grit for an hour or two. Cardboard won't hurt it. Whittling won't hurt it either.
 
You can get rust on acid etched knives just like you would another finish. I would expect it to corrode more easily than stonewashed finishes without the acid etch step.

I think whether it will wear depends on how it was done.

An acid etched blade forces a patina that works similar to a coating. Its not as durable but you are less likely to develop the bad kinds of corrosion with an acid etch. Less then say a bead blast. Of course it really depends on the alloy.
 
You can get rust on acid etched knives just like you would another finish. I would expect it to corrode more easily than stonewashed finishes without the acid etch step.

I think whether it will wear depends on how it was done.

On the bolded statement, you are incorrect. Acid etching a steel blade creates an artificial patina that will keep the steel protected, and will prevent unintentional rust. It wears very well because it is a steel oxide, and the stonewash on top of it smooths out the surface, depending on who does the finish and how long they do it, which creates a smoother surface than just the acid wash by itslef, and allows for a good life of the finish, while still protecting the blade.

You are right that you can still get steel to rust if it has an acid stonewash finish and that the wear will depend on how well it is done, but it will be much more resistant than the same steel that has simply been stonewashed, as long as the acid-stonewash is done well, and I know for a fact that Josh does very good work. I have every bit of faith that he will make a finish that will wear very well, and will function the way that it is meant to.

An acid etched blade forces a patina that works similar to a coating. Its not as durable but you are less likely to develop the bad kinds of corrosion with an acid etch. Less then say a bead blast. Of course it really depends on the alloy.

Yep. Pretty much any steel that is acid stonewshed will hold up better than if it were only stonewashed though, and certainly better than if it had a bead balsted finish, as that promotes corrosion more than almost anything as far as standard finishes are concerned.

Some alloys don't even really allow you to acid wash them, and those are the ones that you are never really going to get corrosion on anyway, so there's little to no point. Examples of that would be Z-FiNit, Vanax 35, and non-corroding steels like H1. If you put Z-FiNit in an acid wash for several hours, it will hardly even effect the color of the steel surface, much less actually form a layer of patina.
On a carbon steel blade or something similar, a good acid stonewash can allow for very good corrosion resistance, but generally it is safer to do on steels like 3V, 4V, and maybe M4, rather than something that is more prone to corrosion, like 1095, because you have to be extremely careful not to let the acid damage the blade itself or stay on the blade more than a very short time, as it will work too well in some cases.
 
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I was specifically told not to polish my Damascus blades by the knifemaker or it would diminish the variegated appearance. I suspect the same would apply to acid etching.
 
Acid sw isn't indestructible. Especially you see it on fixed blades with kydex sheaths.

I think that DLC used in CS knives is more durable.
 
I re-etch my EDC folder with Damascus blades when they need it. After you get a good etching and sand it the way you want, you definitely don't want to polish it after. Same goes for Acid etching a mono steel. On mono steels, every stonewash/ acid etch is different, I have had some from one knife maker that I have EDC'd for years, and it looks like the day I got it, and I have some that I have used for 6 months, and you can see the etching has smoothed out, leaving marks. Similar to a coating smoothing out. The ones that I have that show more smoothing out are deep etches. on a mono steel a light patina/etch seems to be the way to go. IMHO Other peoples experiences could be different.
 
Acid etching a steel blade creates an artificial patina that will keep the steel protected, and will prevent unintentional rust. It wears very well because it is a steel oxide…

Sorry for the necro post, but I've been doing some research on blade finishes... My understanding is that etching causes a strictly mechanical change, not a chemical one. For putting a patina on steel, I found that treatment with acid is actually specified as a prep step, precisely because it makes the steel more vulnerable to the subsequent treatments that deposit a patina. An acid-etched blade is only darker in color because it has greater surface area as a result of the etch. Please tell me if I'm misunderstanding...
 
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