One minute you say the FB group means nothing and then use it as an excuse here so which is it. Is the FB group "elite" enough for your argument but not prior. I just saw a bad sale go down, how do we know the guy didn't mess with the knife when he got it? It's his word vs his, hence the reason I thought a video be appropriate but you said he didn't need to which is true but just shows he wasn't as willing as the seller. To me it did look like buyers remorse and I'm not sure how I feel about taking something back that I know was sent out working and now told it isn't. I understand the mod is a tough spot just seemed a simple solution to fix the issue. To me it seemed the seller was willing to bend over backwards for the guy while the buyer just said it's bad and I want my $. My 2 cents and I also wish you a happy holiday.
In case this isn't yet nauseatingly clear, I don't know the buyer or the seller. I have no way of forcing someone to provide evidence that they don't have. I was sent a PM by the buyer asking for the "proper" way to handle a refund, nothing more. I had no idea that thread existed until I looked through the GBU hours later. You read what I responded to the message, I don't think my answer (telling the buyer to mail the knife back before a refund is issued) can be misinterpreted, but amazingly enough some folks did.
I obtained information about the group and the way the guy was treated over "there". I had someone inform me of the insults, vulgarity, threats of violence, etc. that were and still are going on dated today. Of course, that doesn't matter at all right? Personally I could not care less about any Facebook group or the threats and whatever else they partake in, I mentioned it to provide the overall context under which this sale went from bad to disaster all within the course of 1 day. I further recommended that the seller be a bit more mature and composed about the situation. Instead the low road was taken and more disruption and damage ensued. As if that is not enough another 3rd party that was attempting to assist the seller ended up stirring things up even more, creating more damage. I find it laughable that I am being assigned the responsibility for the behavior of people on the forums and else where, as well as a deal that fell though.
Again, some folks only see what they want and nothing beyond and have problems with accountability. What I said is what if the guy has no clue HOW to post a video? Again, if it is so important, you should have seriously lobbied for that by sending the buyer an email (someone that can actually accommodate that, instead of me that has not so much as seen that item). Not every deal goes smoothly, obviously that is a given. It sure doesn't help when someone demonstrates belligerence in every response and packs a persecution complex to match towards everyone around. I sure wouldn't want to deal with a person like that, maybe it's me that is crazy in that case.
So if it was buyers remorse, how can it be proven? It's easy to call the plays on the field while sitting in the comfort of one's couch. The only solution would have been to permanently ban everyone involved in that transaction. Overall, I responded to cavalier and cynical nature of the messages I received by the seller, and his entourage, nothing more. Even going so far as asking to be banned. Not everyone is going to sit by and get steamrolled. This whole thing has devolved into one big fat drama-fest that is a waste of time and energy. The seller has his item back or will shortly, the buyer will have his money back, and no one is out anything material. All this did for anyone was garner negative attention that was absolutely unnecessary and damaged some reputations along the way. Keep seeing what you want to see, I'm quite finished with this topic.