Advantage Arms 22LR Conversion

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Has anyone used one of these conversions for a Glock? This one or any other one? I would love to hear some input. I have an Ace conversion for my Gold Cup I bought 30 years ago and am considering getting a conversion for my Glock Model 27. I would like to hear some opinions.

Thanks,
KR
 
I have an AA for the Model 30. Haven't shot it enough to know if it needs a break in period or not before it quits jamming.

They do need a 40grain bullet to function properly, per the manufacturer's instructions.
 
I have an AA conversion kit for my Glock 19. It is a nice setup and to me better than the Ciener kit because the slide will lock back after the last round and Advantage Arms has better customer service. Mine was accurate from the get go. I've only had mine for a few months and I don't even have a 1000 rounds through it yet. I would suggest if you are getting one, get lots of magazines as it just makes it more convenient at the range. BTW, the magazines has a maximum capacity of 10 rounds (the company is located in Komifornia so that's why the small capacity). BTW, I've been using CCI Blazer ammo and I've not experience much FTF and FTE with that ammo (the conversion kit is ammo sensitive).
 
Thanks for the responses so far guys. I appreciate the information.

KR
 
Anymore experience with these anyone?

Know any dealers with any in stock (seem very hard to get)?

Any problems with malfs?
 
I got one for my Glock 34. Well it's the one for the 17/22. I have put about 1500 rounds through mine with very few problems. I have found that Remington golden bullets run near flawlessly in it. Out of the maybe 10 jams I've had in the thing 9 of them were from crap ammo. only one time I can remember that the Rem Golden Bullets jammed in over 1000 rounds. And it is quite accurate in the fullsized model. You can hit a playing card with it at 50 yards all day long which is acceptable to me anyway. It's a great training tool since you use YOUR lower. The trigger will be only slightly different but that's to be expected since your swapping uppers. But the difference is not even really noticable. Definitely not enough to change the way the weapon handles trigger wise. I'm gonna get one for my G21 here soon. I think that would make the perfect survival kit. A single weapon that can go from 45 to 22 and have acceptable levels of accuracy in either. It's a durable and reliable kit. The best available for the Glock IMHO. My advise is save a little money, buy an additional 2 mags and 5000 rounds of Golden Bullets and you'll be ready to rock.
 
Really appreciate that brief review Infi-del!

I got one this morning from the family for Christmas!

G19, Remington Golden Bullet, two FTE malfs in three mags (30rds), and I'll take that percentage even with perfection as the goal. Both occured during RF drills. None during double tap or static tri-burst drills. I realize that's a lot occuring out of only three mags but had to help the wife get ready for the Christmas dinner and wanted to briefly try all skill sets before the family arrived. Excited to have the new kit, so the FTE malfs may have resulted from LWing a little (mixed drills and excited slinging .22 from a G). Weight is incredibly light due to the alloy slide.

She got me two spare mags too boot (she's trained in DP)! Plan on one for the G20 for the same reasons you present. Like you said, can't think of a better setup for the BOB!
Only concern is the inevitable indent at chamber rear due to trigger pull to remove the slide. Mfg states only DF as necessary to remove slide, not repeatedly. Well.....how many "as necessary removals" before malfs start to occur due to severe bore chamber damage from the striker? So be it, you can't have it all, buy more barrels aye!

Keep the reviews coming if anyone has more long term data.

1500 rounds is a great testimonial so far!

Out.
 
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GPB said:
Really appreciate that brief review Infi-del!

I got one this morning from the family for Christmas!

G19, Remington Golden Bullet, two FTE malfs in three mags (30rds), and I'll take that percentage even with perfection as the goal. Both occured during RF drills. None during double tap or static tri-burst drills. I realize that's a lot occuring out of only three mags but had to help the wife get ready for the Christmas dinner and wanted to briefly try all skill sets before the family arrived. Excited to have the new kit, so the FTE malfs may have resulted from LWing a little (mixed drills and excited slinging .22 from a G). Weight is incredibly light due to the alloy slide.

She got me two spare mags too boot (she's trained in DP)! Plan on one for the G20 for the same reasons you present. Like you said, can't think of a better setup for the BOB!
Only concern is the inevitable indent at chamber rear due to trigger pull to remove the slide. Mfg states only DF as necessary to remove slide, not repeatedly. Well.....how many "as necessary removals" before malfs start to occur due to severe bore chamber damage from the striker? So be it, you can't have it all, buy more barrels aye!

Keep the reviews coming if anyone has more long term data.

1500 rounds is a great testimonial so far!

Out.
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I can't really remember my first few mags in mine but there were probably some hickups. 22s are picky little things sometimes. Jams are just the name of the game with 22lr. Sometimes you get a champ, sometimes you get a jammomatic even from the same company. I think once you get a few 100 rounds through it you'll be fine. You can also try some different ammo. GBs really worked for me. But you might find your kit likes a different brand. I didn't even clean mine until I had about 1000 rounds through it and it started to cycle funny from the crud. I don't carry my Glock 34 so I'm able to leave my AA Kit on the frame all the time unless I want to use my 34. But I would imagine that dry firing it would damage your firing pin before your barrel. At least I hope so. I'd much rather replace a firing pin than a barrel. Sometimes guys sell Gock frames on gun broker when they buy a CCF metal frame or something. I may just buy a Glock 17 lower one day and make a dedicated Glock 22lr. That way I'd only have to take it down every 1000 rounds or so.
 
Yep it's new so there's bound to be some break in period but I am very pleased so far. Never thought about checking GB for frames, that's a good idea.

I'll post again once it's got 1000 through it, or if any major issues.
 
Over the years I've had 4 of the AA units, and 2 of the Ciener conversions. The AA units worked very well with just about anything I used in them and have all been quite accurate. Can't say the same about the Ciener conversions.

BTW - If you want to prevent "chamber dings" on the barrel, slip a FIRED EMPTY case into the chamber before you field strip the pistol.

TR Graham
The Glocksmith

Edited Note - These units do need to be cleaned and lubricated for reliable functioning.
 
TR Graham said:
Over the years I've had 4 of the AA units, and 2 of the Ciener conversions. The AA units worked very well with just about anything I used in them and have all been quite accurate. Can't say the same about the Ciener conversions.

BTW - If you want to prevent "chamber dings" on the barrel, slip a FIRED EMPTY case into the chamber before you field strip the pistol.

TR Graham
The Glocksmith

Edited Note - These units do need to be cleaned and lubricated for reliable functioning.
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I think I know you! Do you know Sloan?
 
Ya, stay away from the Ceiner kit. I had one for my 19. Don't think I ever made it through a whole mag, without atleast one jam. Usually 3 to 6 jams per mag. Great practice for clearing jams. Ended up throwing, uh I mean giving it away. There is no actual warranty on Ceiner kits. :rolleyes:
 
TR Graham said:
Yup, out of Indy.

TR Graham
The Glocksmith
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Yep, I think he's consulted with you on a new venture of ours. I called him about this post and we had a chuckle about not thinking about a spent casing and realizing it was you.
 
You asked for opinions. So, as a long time shooter and gunsmith, here's mine:
1. Do NOT use conversion kits! IMO you can't make a sedan into a pickup or vice-versa. If you want to shoot a 22, buy one. Again IMO there's no real advantage to sticking a 22 kit atop your Colt, Glock, etc. It does NOT improve your shooting with the real caliber.
2. Most of the coversion kits are 'touchy' to say the least and require a 'Rube Golbberg' setup to feed the smaller ammo or accomodate the mags.
3. IMO, it isn't good to replace the slide and so on of a quality pistol with an add-on kit. I compare it to frequently placing/replacing luggage racks or cargo carriers on cars. No matter how careful you are, you'll mar and/or damage the basic firearm.
 
Old CW4 said:
You asked for opinions. So, as a long time shooter and gunsmith, here's mine:
1. Do NOT use conversion kits! IMO you can't make a sedan into a pickup or vice-versa. If you want to shoot a 22, buy one. Again IMO there's no real advantage to sticking a 22 kit atop your Colt, Glock, etc. It does NOT improve your shooting with the real caliber.
2. Most of the coversion kits are 'touchy' to say the least and require a 'Rube Golbberg' setup to feed the smaller ammo or accomodate the mags.
3. IMO, it isn't good to replace the slide and so on of a quality pistol with an add-on kit. I compare it to frequently placing/replacing luggage racks or cargo carriers on cars. No matter how careful you are, you'll mar and/or damage the basic firearm.
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Didn't really ask for "opinions", rather first hand experience and data with this specific kit.

1.) I appreciate your opinion / perspective. I own several .22's. Wasn't buying it to "improve" my shooting with the real caliber. Rather, an option in hard times.
2.) Lot's of feedback on other forums about how well this one works and mags don't seem to be a problem (function).
3.) Understand your point but not concerned with Glock frame / component damage at this point. More pleased with the option of up to three calibers from one gun in a pack (weight) if ammo becomes scarce.

That being said I do appreciate your opinion. Have you actually owned or tested one of these specific model kits in a Glock?
 
No, haven't owned any but have sure worked on a bunch of them, which is the reason I won't own any of them.
 
Old CW4 said:
You asked for opinions. So, as a long time shooter and gunsmith, here's mine:
1. Do NOT use conversion kits! IMO you can't make a sedan into a pickup or vice-versa. If you want to shoot a 22, buy one. Again IMO there's no real advantage to sticking a 22 kit atop your Colt, Glock, etc. It does NOT improve your shooting with the real caliber.
2. Most of the coversion kits are 'touchy' to say the least and require a 'Rube Golbberg' setup to feed the smaller ammo or accomodate the mags.
3. IMO, it isn't good to replace the slide and so on of a quality pistol with an add-on kit. I compare it to frequently placing/replacing luggage racks or cargo carriers on cars. No matter how careful you are, you'll mar and/or damage the basic firearm.
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Sorry bro, but you're 100% wrong on this one. The AA Kit is aluminum, if the rails on the Glock are delicate enough to be damaged by this I want to know early on so I can buy another weapon. That being said, the AA kid doesn't hurt the Glock frame in the slightest. There is a huge advantage to one of these kits in trigger control exercises as well as first shot drills from the holster. And trigger time is trigger time, the more you shoot period the better you'll get. It is no substitute for recoil training with your actual caliber. But it is a great training aid for sight picture, trigger control, and holster drills. My shooting has improved greatly since I got mine. The one thing it does not help with is shortening time between follow up shots with the real caliber. But it makes for so many less things you have to practice with expensive ammo. The AA kits feed very well. About as well as my Ruger 22lr pistol. To the point to where I sold my ruger. I would never stick a 22lr conversion kit on say my Ed Brown. Don't want anything not fitted to that gun on it. But for a Glock... they work really well.
 
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