Recommendation? Affordable tall hollow grind folder with metal handle

[bladefiend1]

Hello, I was wondering if some of you could recommend me a production knife with attributes mentioned in the title "Affordable tall hollow grind folder with metal handle" I would like a design that prioritizes sliceyness and cutting performance so a thin uncoated blade stock with full or near full height hollow to make the thickening at the cheeks as gradual as possible and reduce binding would be ideal. I have heard people say that thickness behind the edge is the most important factor in cutting performance so a blade in the neighborhood of .016 tbte or less would be preferable. I have used search functions on quite a few sites to no avail the closest I have come is the full size copper Asticus which got discontinued. Kershaw has a few offerings that would fit the bill if not for their 8cr13mov blade steel that has terrible edge retention in my experience. I would have much to choose from with civivi and kizers lineup if not for my requirement of the handle being pure metal which is a must for me as I strongly dislike any plastic g10 or even to a lesser extent (mainly for hygenic reasons) micarta on my knife. I am new here so sorry if this is too long.
And thanks in advance to anyone who makes a suggestion I would be thrilled if you helped me find such a knife as I have kind of exhausted myself looking.

 

[The True North]

The Cold Steel Pocket Bushman seems to fit the criteria, unless I’m missing something.

I like mine, for what it is.

 

[ferider]

Spyderco SwayBack on sale at bladehq for $195. Doesn’t get much better than this.

 

[Hammer67]

Spyderco SwayBack on sale at bladehq for $195. Doesn’t get much better than this.

THIS. ^

 

[Tsujigiri]

I think you may have to give up on one or more of your requirements, remember that hollow grinds are made with grinding wheels of a particular radius. To make a hollow grind on a blade that's much taller than usual, you'd have to retool with unusually sized radius wheels, an expense manufacturers are less likely to take on for one knife model. And no one is going to grind it so there's a long thin section at the edge like on a straight razor because it wouldn't be strong enough for a knife. So most of the hollow grinds you'll find aren't particularly tall. You can certainly find tall blades that are flat ground, though, or ones that use a thinner blade stock. Spyderco makes a lot of them.

 

[bladefiend1]

The Cold Steel Pocket Bushman seems to fit the criteria, unless I’m missing something.

I like mine, for what it is.

It looks nice tbh I like that style of clip point. Blade hq lists it as flat though. I have heard that cold steel switched the grinds on some of their knives from hollow to flat over the years so perhaps you have an older one. Blade hq has also missreported grinds on occasion I will checkout a review of it when I get off bus.

 

[bladefiend1]

I think you may have to give up on one or more of your requirements, remember that hollow grinds are made with grinding wheels of a particular radius. To make a hollow grind on a blade that's much taller than usual, you'd have to retool with unusually sized radius wheels, an expense manufacturers are less likely to take on for one knife model. And no one is going to grind it so there's a long thin section at the edge like on a straight razor because it wouldn't be strong enough for a knife. So most of the hollow grinds you'll find aren't particularly tall. You can certainly find tall blades that are flat ground, though, or ones that use a thinner blade stock. Spyderco makes a lot of the

I think you may have to give up on one or more of your requirements, remember that hollow grinds are made with grinding wheels of a particular radius. To make a hollow grind on a blade that's much taller than usual, you'd have to retool with unusually sized radius wheels, an expense manufacturers are less likely to take on for one knife model. And no one is going to grind it so there's a long thin section at the edge like on a straight razor because it wouldn't be strong enough for a knife. So most of the hollow grinds you'll find aren't particularly tall. You can certainly find tall blades that are flat ground, though, or ones that use a thinner blade stock. Spyderco makes a lot of them.

I think you may have to give up on one or more of your requirements, remember that hollow grinds are made with grinding wheels of a particular radius. To make a hollow grind on a blade that's much taller than usual, you'd have to retool with unusually sized radius wheels, an expense manufacturers are less likely to take on for one knife model. And no one is going to grind it so there's a long thin section at the edge like on a straight razor because it wouldn't be strong enough for a knife. So most of the hollow grinds you'll find aren't particularly tall. You can certainly find tall blades that are flat ground, though, or ones that use a thinner blade stock. Spyderco makes a lot of them.

From my limited knowledge (I have never tried to make a knife) the more you increase the diameter of the wheel the more life it has at that size as it takes less turns of a large wheel to grind a knife than a small wheel that has to turn more to remove equal amount of material plus once it is out of spec for a certain model you can probably shrink the wheel to fit another model? I might be way off. I probably wasn't clear in op the grind doesn't have to be exotically tall I think I would be happy with something like the Kizer mini roach if it had a metal handle that knife cost 50usd. Although you are right that I have a lot of criteria. My ideal would be something like budget brown fsd though I have never held one.

 

[WValtakis]

Douk-Douk

 

[bladefiend1]

Spyderco SwayBack on sale at bladehq for $195. Doesn’t get much better than this.

It is pretty sweat and that is great deal but I have no experience with fully straight edges and do not want to risk that much for a knife that I might end up not liking might kick myself for later. Sorry for the late reply am typing on small phone

 

[sanglant]

as far as i know, most manufacturers have went to belt grinders, platens are only limited by belt length.
something like this

https://www.ameribrade.com/parts-belts/radius-platens

 

[bladefiend1]

Douk-Douk

I think I will buy the larger one with my next purchase as it does have a lot of features I like /seems very slicey and affordable might use it for fishing but I would prefer locking blade for edc

 

[bladefiend1]

as far as i know, most manufacturers have went to belt grinders, platens are only limited by belt length.
something like this

https://www.ameribrade [QUOTE="sang...ibrade.com/parts-belts/radius-platens[/QUOTE]

.com/parts-belts/radius-platens[/URL]

I didn't know, that is pretty cool. I have only ever really seen knife making footage for small shops and individual makers and probably have lots of wrong assumptions about how it's done by large scale manufacturers. Would be cool to see footage of the manufacturing line at some of the big corpos.

 

[tony281sc2]

Civivi Dogma in copper or brass. Thin slicey blade w/ a tall hallow grind
Around $50

ETA: I think they are being discontinued, which is why it’s marked down from $80, so get one while you can. My dad has this knife and he likes it so much he asked me if I could get him another (which I did for Christmas).
Civivi really is hard to beat when it comes to value. This is a lot of knife for the money.

 

[bladefiend1]

Civivi Dogma in copper or brass. Thin slicey blade w/ a tall hallow grind
Around $50
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ETA: I think they are being discontinued, which is why it’s marked down from $80, so get one while you can. My dad has this knife and he likes it so much he asked me if I could get him another (which I did for Christmas).
Civivi really is hard to beat when it comes to value. This is a lot of knife for the money.

The uncoated brass version seems pretty much perfect to me aside from the g10 backpacker which I can live with. If it triggers my OCD I can probably sand down some piece of metal and use it as backspacer. Unless someone suggests something I prefer in the next couple of days I think I will go with this. Maybe I should buy it sooner in case they run out of stock. Anyways thanks Tony and everyone for your suggestions I must say it is very generous that you guys read through my entire wall of requirements and put the time and thought in to make such tailored recommendations. I will do my best to learn more about knives and hopefully pay it forward someday.

 

[bladefiend1]

*backpacker*

 

[bladefiend1]

*Backspacer*