I have a POS Frost knife that I got thrown in when I bought an Ichi off Ebay. Turns out I like it better than I did the Ichi, which I accidentally dropped in the dumpster when I was breaking down boxes. I never for a moment considered going after it, if that tells you anything. Anyway, back to the Frost, I use it to open bags of dirt and other nasty stuff I would never get near my good knives I actually like