AG Russel/Canal St. Stag Swell Center

mckgreg

mckgreg

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Thought you might like seeing it. Good sized and stout knife. The butt cap was obviously a challenge on this guy.
Greg

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That really looks a lot better than the prototype as shown around the web! Nice swedge on the blade which completes the knife IMHO. Stag handles are looking good also. I think this will be a winner from CSC. Awesome pattern from days gone by. Thanks for showing the knife Greg. Where's my check book!!

Russell
 
Wow! Thta's a beauty Greg! Stag looks nice, and that clip blade really flows:thumbup::thumbup:

Those guys do come up with some mighty cool designs, definitely not afraid to think outside the box.

Eric
 
Very nice knife. It looks like the fit and finish is first rate and the handles stand out nicely. The stag actually has some depth to it -- nice!
 
That is a really nice looking knife Greg.

I can't help but think that the (to me anyway) overcomplicated butt end of this knife might be a cause for concern down the road.
The scales being fitted to the liners, that are bent to act like the cap, instead of the cap itself makes me think that the cap is not likely to remain very stable. What are those two spacers between the springs and the cap called? They look like they are folded sheet metal and not solid. Maybe they somehow help hold the butt plate on the knife?

Don't get me wrong, I really do like it. It looks great and I love the Clip blade :thumbup:. Maybe some of our resident experts can show us some old knives made like this one that have stood the test of time, or point me to where I can read some more on the design.
It just sort of strikes me as an example of how you would build something before you figured out how to do it right the way.
 
Stu,

I believe the butts on the knives of old were actually cast pieces, not a very practical or affordable endevour nowadays. The two brass pieces at the butt end are actually solid pinned pieces, and act as spring stops (they're actually wedge shaped with a cutout on the bottom for the springs). It's definitely solid, according to CS they did an eighty pound weight test on the butt piece for a number of days with no problems.

Eric
 
The butt cap appears to be a seperate piece with solid brass spacers attached/pinned that allow the center liner to extend between them. Then the butt cap and spacers(which is one piece) is pinned thru the frame. There isn't anyway it can come loose or move that I can see so long as it is pinned in place properly. I can't tell by looking at it if the butt cap is pinned continuosly (like a bolt) thru the whole thickness of the knife or not. Whole thickness being outside of scale to outside of scale. The large pin toward the butt end does suggest that but doesn't make it so. The brass spacers on the butt cap are shaped to match the cutting edge of the master blade and then notched to allow the backsprings to ride on top of them. The extra brass on the spacers that is needed to match the shape of the blade between the liners causes it to "slope" inward which creates enough meat for the thru pin. A challenging piece for a production knife. I'll get some closeups of the inside of the liners and butt cap and post 'em soon.
Greg
 
Very nice Greg, like the fact the nail nicks are on the same side too!
G2
 
The brass spacers look roughly something like this image. I am only guessing at the spacer/cap pin connection. Charlie posted images of the original knife made by Schrade on the bottom of page #60 in the "Old Knives" thread.
Greg

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Beautiful knife. Is there any utility for a butt cap like that? Could one use it as a make- shift hammer? Say... maybe to tap the lid of a paint can closed or some other light duty task? The reason I ask is that the end of my puukko looks like that, designed to be used for striking.
 
Thanks for the diagram Greg. I definitely need to handle one of these sometime.
 
That is just plain awesome!:thumbup:
 
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