Air rifles

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Is an air rifle/bb gun a good thing to carry in the wild? I know a lot of people carry firearms, for protection as well as leisure. What if you didn't really need it for protection? Just shooting for fun and maybe small game hunting for survival. Air/bb guns are generally cheap, light, and the ammunition is very light, making for easy transport. Any thoughts?
 
I used to hunt small game with a pellet rifle. A good air rifle can get expensive. So expensive at times that your better off getting a nice 22. Wal-mart used to carry some good pellet guns. I don't know now. Maybe you can check Dick's. Find one with a good range. It doesn't take much power to kill squirrels and rabbits, but the stronger the better. If your thinking of getting a pistol then it's most likely going to be a CO2 and that's another thing that your going to have to carry. I recommend for hunting, if you want to save some money, that you use a quality pump rifle.
 
The new age high velocity pellet rifles are good for taking small game, but still, shot placement is critical. I have a feeling that a conventional firearm would be a lot more humane and infinantly more versatile, for minimal added expense. I have also found it more difficult to shoot airguns than conventional firearms, but that may be due to the reduced velocity of the models I shoot- which are relegated to plinking.
 
my gamo shoots 1400 fps . very good straight shooter .. i use it all the time for grouse and ptarmigan..
 
Hey Guys...

I hunt alot with an air rifle...One of my favorite ways to hunt tree rats....

I hunt in areas where there are quite a few houses,, so quiet is good...

However,, if you don't need to be quiet,, a good old .22 can't be beat...

A repeater like a Ruger 10/22 is hard to beat,, and if you get the notion to build a better straighter shooting gun,, there are Tons of aftermarket parts for it..

ttyle

Eric
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I meant the pump rifles, where the barrel bends down to build up pressure and what not. To gadgets and gear, to read the old threads!
 
I have a pump (lever-action pump) .22 pellet rifle. I don;t carry it when I'm out hiking, but I've shot many a rabbit, rats, and mice around our little place. The rats will come into the yard to mess with the chickens (feed, eggs), and I do love the sound of impact! Whump!
 
my gamo is a .177 cal pellet gun not air but spring powered .. i have had several pumps fail on me here in the cold
 
Pump guns where the "barrel bends down" are spring piston guns. There are several type of these guns, break barrel, side lever, or under lever, occasionally a different novel method. They all cock a powerful spring, which pushes a piston, which supplies the compressed air. Spring guns can have their own little quirks, such as recoil, "barrel droop", inconsistency, dieseling, hold sensitivity, etc. They can also be very powerful and are self contained. The good ones are from Europe and can be rather expensive. I generally find these fastest of the single shot airguns to shoot and reload. These also have a potential hazard, the possibility that the lever slips while cocking or loading a pellet, causing the breech or barrel so slam closed on one's fingers. This can cause lost digits. Most spring guns have some kind of safety system designed to prevent such an incident, but only a fool would rely on such a device. It's wiser to firmly hold the cocking lever/barrel while loading in the event of a failure to prevent the piston from closing unintentionally. I used to wonder what the chances were of this happening, and it happened to me once. Thankfully, I had the cocking lever firmly in hand and my fingers were out of the breech. Really scared the crap out of me.

Pre charged pneumatic (PCP) guns can be very consistent, usually little or no recoil, very accurate, very expensive, very powerful, offered in widest range of calibers. They need expensive support gear because of the rather extreme air pressures involved, either scuba tanks or a mechanical pump that is no fun at all to use.

Manual pump pneumatic guns can be very consistent, usually little or no recoil, can be very accurate, but are on the low end of the scale. Daisy, Crosman and Benjamin/Sheridan are the big names. They generally are good plinkers, the higher end Benjamins and Sheridans can be very good small game hunters, particularly in .20 and .22 calibers. The downside of these guns is that they generally need multiple pumps (usually 2 - 10)for each shot, which can be tiresome. Daisys and Crosmans have lots of plastic, and have limited choices in the larger calibers. Benjamins and Sheridans have some quirks such as being a real pain to scope.

There are also CO2 powered airguns. These tend to be Dasiy/Crosman low end guns, but there is a very healthy modding community with Crosmans for squeezing the most accuracy, power, and CO2 out of these things. The .22 CO2 guns are good for hunting. Little or no recoil. On the downside, CO2 does poorly in cold weather, and can be inconsistent as the gas is depleted from the cartridge/tank.

Most airguns are single shots. There are occasionally repeaters, semiautos, DAO repeater guns. These tend to be on the low end, but not all.

Pistols come in a variety of configurations, too. Some, such as Crosmans (multi pump or CO2), can be ok or small game hunting, particularly in .22.

Each style has it's own pluses and minuses. I like them because I can shoot every day here in my big city back yard without ever bothering anyone or schlepping out to the range or BLM land.
 
I have a mid-70s Daisy Feinwerkbau that I have to get fixed, which is a bitch. It's awesome for small game, but a heavy rifle.

Sheridan Blue Streak, 5mm, awesome pneumatic gun! Put a Williams Peep Sight on it, it's the most accurate variable pump luftgewehr I have ever shot.

I once owned a Beeman P-1 Magnum pistol as well, I've owned two of them actually. Again, awesome, I wish I still had mine.

There are many out there, RWS and Gamo, etc., that will serve you well.

I have shot so many different Daisy and Crossman rifles and pistols I cannot remember them all, but none ever impressed me as well as those above.
 
Manual pump pneumatic guns can be very consistent, usually little or no recoil, can be very accurate, but are on the low end of the scale. Daisy, Crosman and Benjamin/Sheridan are the big names. They generally are good plinkers, the higher end Benjamins and Sheridans can be very good small game hunters, particularly in .20 and .22 calibers. The downside of these guns is that they generally need multiple pumps (usually 2 - 10)for each shot, which can be tiresome. Daisys and Crosmans have lots of plastic, and have limited choices in the larger calibers. Benjamins and Sheridans have some quirks such as being a real pain to scope.

+1 to everything shecky said, espeicially the quoted portion. If you buy a Benjamin/Sheridan in 5mm or 22 and send it to Mac1 to be steroided and add a peep sight I can't think of a better hunting air rifle. No external pieces to fool with, grab a tin of pellets and go hunt, plenty of power and accuracy, and if treated right will last a lifetime.

I shoot a lot of air rifles and I have tried the top end, Daystate PH6 .25, and I have tried the low end, new plastic crosman 760, and the older Benjamins and Sheridans come out on top IMO. Chris

Some pics of my favorites.



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1. I want to be your neighbor.
2. I love your air rifles.
3. What is the top air rifle, the pic by itself?
4. Dog is beautiful! Eyes are clear, no tumors! :D
 
1. I want to be your neighbor.
2. I love your air rifles.
3. What is the top air rifle, the pic by itself?
4. Dog is beautiful! Eyes are clear, no tumors! :D

1. I would love to have you.
2. Me too
3. Daystate PH6 in .25, the hammer of Thor to everything raccoon size and smaller
4. You should see him tree, whenever I get guns out he is real irate if we don't go hunting. :thumbup:

At 3 months old


Hammering a possum
 
I can hit anything out to about 50 feet with my Benjamin Sheridan .22 with Williams peep site (a must, at least for me). About $150 USD new.
 
I love air rifles and shoot them regularly, more actually than my firearms. For survival, however, unless you can't own a firearm, a .22 is probably a better bet. A plain old .22 has a lot more power than most commonly available air rifles. You can get them more powerful, but then you are in pretty expensive territory.
 
I've taken lots of small game with an air rifle. Love those old Sheridans by the way, such great guns.
 
I have a few beemans and Rws,Gamo's,had tons of crosmans and daisy's.There are alot of good air rifles and I agree that the benjamin's are quality,and very reliable.My favorites are spring piston models,and while not exactly cheap the Rws 48-52 are very powerful well made airguns,I've taken numerous small game from squirrel,rabbit,racoon,crow etc.with good results. The Rws 34 is a great bargain imo,It can be had for around$170 and is a step up from Gamo's offerings in that price range.
 
lotoblades,
I totally agree however spring piston rifles are more difficult to shoot accurately, longer, heavier and eat scopes, except the more expensive air rifle rated scopes. Shooting a powerful spring piston gun accurately requires a lot of practice IMO.

I sure would love a TX200 though.:D Chris
 
Chris,

I would imagine that is the Hammer of Thor. That dog is something else, I wish my wife and son were not allergic to dogs.

I love air rifles and shoot them regularly, more actually than my firearms. For survival, however, unless you can't own a firearm, a .22 is probably a better bet. A plain old .22 has a lot more power than most commonly available air rifles. You can get them more powerful, but then you are in pretty expensive territory.

You know, it depends on the context. If you're talking about having something in your backpack, a Ruger 10/22 with a folding stock and a Williams Peep Sight or scope is probably the way to go.

For other survival purposes, meaning long term, I'm with Mel Tappan and Dr. Beeman all the way. :)
 
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