Ok, I've found some new toys to obsess over. Airsoft guns. You know, the ones that look and feel real. So, before I drop $350, I thought I'd ask around and get some input on what to get. Any recommendations? I'm looking for a heavy weight electric long gun. I'm currently experiencing a three way tie between an MP5, an M4, and a G36. All are at the new Kansas City Jungle Toy store, and all are really cool. Anybody got any recommendations?
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I own a TM M4 myself. I beleive the M4 and MP5 series are more favorable than the G36. Have you considered getting your gun from shops overseas? The prices of the gun is cheaper but you have to pay more shipping and some people are worried about customs.
I bought my m4 and a pistol from www.airsoftshop.com
some other stores in HK if u havent been to their sites are www.dentrinity.com and www.redwolfairsoft.com
I bought my m4 and a pistol from www.airsoftshop.com
some other stores in HK if u havent been to their sites are www.dentrinity.com and www.redwolfairsoft.com
DumboRat will be in here any minute to help you out -- he's by far the most knowledgeable person I've read on any forum in the subject of airsoft. He used to write insanely long yet totally useful posts on airsoftzone.com, which I believe is now defunct.
My $.02... go to www.airsoftplayers.com, register, and visit the forums and reviews. There are plenty of people with the pieces you're considering, and probably a review of Jungle Toy as well.
P.S. I own a Glock 18c and USP Tactical, both in need of repair, but both are a blast to play with.
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My $.02... go to www.airsoftplayers.com, register, and visit the forums and reviews. There are plenty of people with the pieces you're considering, and probably a review of Jungle Toy as well.
P.S. I own a Glock 18c and USP Tactical, both in need of repair, but both are a blast to play with.
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I think the M4 is the most versitile gun out there. That is what I'm looking to get.
I'm really leaning towards the M4 myself, if for no other reason than extensive experience with the real thing as one of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children. SWAT magazine just did a review of an Olympic Arms authorized M4 produced by Specialized Distribution (http://www.airsoftsd.com) that looks pretty good. According to the article, most M4 accessories will fit on it with little or no modification. that was a concern, since there are so many cool things to lock onto the RIS. To expand the topic, if anybody has a good suggestion regarding convincing my wife to let me drop this kind of cash on a toy that actually IS a toy, I'm all ears...er, eyes..., or modems or monitors or something. Aw, you know what i'm trying to say. Will getting a new toy also mean a trip to the jewelry store?
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Point out to her that it is NOT a toy, it is a training tool!
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The place I look at most often is here;
Arnie's Airsoft
It's got a great forum and there are also reviews there for you to look through.
Ryan
Arnie's Airsoft
It's got a great forum and there are also reviews there for you to look through.
Ryan
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I am not into airsoft seriously so I do not have any expertise to offer since I only goof off with TM spring pistols with my son. However, www.airsoftretreat.com has good info and reviews. Also, Sam at www.projectairsoft.us has great prices, is US based, and is an awesome guy to do business with. Over Christmas, I ordered a TM MK23 SOCOM springer and FedEx was late with the delivery. Due to the mix up, he insisted in sending me another for free and would not take no for an answer. I have another TM 1911a1 HGHU on order with him now! (Only $35 shipped!)
I'd love to be able to call an airsoft gun a training tool, for tax purposes if nothing else. Unfortunately, unless I can put an IV in it or defibrillate the thing, that's not gonna happen. Very few ambulances come equipped with assault weapons these days. (And more's the pity. Many of the people I have to deal with are wonderful candidates for hydra-shock therapy.)
Crash -- LOL, I don't deserve such praise. 
I'm nowhere *_near_* so knowing ! But hey, I'll give it my best shot......
KSmedic -- If you have local tech/warranty support (ask before you buy!) from your retailer, your best bet at this point in time is still the Tokyo Marui AEGs, in virtually any dress except the UZI. They can be said to be the Toyota/Honda of the airsoft world -- nothing fancy, but great quality and will *_last_*. Also, as you mature in the hobby, you'll have plenty to mess around with in terms of upgrades (resist "pre-upgraded" AEGs for now, think of them as race-cars...higher performance, for sure, but are they durable enough to run your daily work commute day-in and day-out?) as you yourself gain more technical experience.
Finally, there are active airsoft hobbyist groups in the KS area. Cross the search term "airsoft" with your desired location (region, state, or even closest big city) in a search engine like Google, and you'll get great hits. It's often most helpful for beginners to hook-up with experienced hobbyists not to only leech their knowledge, but also to get together at some "show and tell" events or even before/after local games so that you can get a feel for the replicas themselves.
Best of luck !
Allen
aka DumboRAT
I'm nowhere *_near_* so knowing ! But hey, I'll give it my best shot......KSmedic -- If you have local tech/warranty support (ask before you buy!) from your retailer, your best bet at this point in time is still the Tokyo Marui AEGs, in virtually any dress except the UZI. They can be said to be the Toyota/Honda of the airsoft world -- nothing fancy, but great quality and will *_last_*. Also, as you mature in the hobby, you'll have plenty to mess around with in terms of upgrades (resist "pre-upgraded" AEGs for now, think of them as race-cars...higher performance, for sure, but are they durable enough to run your daily work commute day-in and day-out?) as you yourself gain more technical experience.
Finally, there are active airsoft hobbyist groups in the KS area. Cross the search term "airsoft" with your desired location (region, state, or even closest big city) in a search engine like Google, and you'll get great hits. It's often most helpful for beginners to hook-up with experienced hobbyists not to only leech their knowledge, but also to get together at some "show and tell" events or even before/after local games so that you can get a feel for the replicas themselves.
Best of luck !
Allen
aka DumboRAT
Airsoft guns originated in Japan. Since real guns are pretty much illegal in Japan (with few exceptions), the Airsoft Market is HUGE in Japan. There are gunstores you'd swear were real stores, with rack upon rack of realistic looking automatic rifles and pistols of every type. You'll also find tons of real accessories and leathergoods. Japanese Airsoft guns are not constrained by licensing and legal issues. None of the guns have red tips, and they have all of the manufacturers stamps intact.
Before 9-11, I went to Japan and bought a few. I brought them back in checked luggage and no one cared one bit. I shudder to think what they would say today if someone tried to bring in an MP-5 in luggage?
Anyways, my favorite is the M-4 Airsoft by Tokyo Marui.
Before 9-11, I went to Japan and bought a few. I brought them back in checked luggage and no one cared one bit. I shudder to think what they would say today if someone tried to bring in an MP-5 in luggage?
Anyways, my favorite is the M-4 Airsoft by Tokyo Marui.
Actually, they are bound by licensing laws.
Most are contracted through large international holding firms like Cyberguns SA (previously 3P SA). Those nice Colt markings? They're not licensed to Tokyo Marui nor Western Arms -- they're licensed to Cyberguns, who then licenses out to TM and WA, and maintains the peace between competitors who do not want crossovers in their market share.
Very few makers, such as Western Arms, Maruzen, etc., receive licensing directly from real-steel manufacturers such as Beretta, Walther, and SVI. In some of these cases, the real-steel companies even have alloed such licensing to extend beyond the replicas; domestic Far-Eastern market and into the USA, and this includes SVI and Beretta.
Yet others, such as Glock, have actively pursued the prosecution of the Japanese companies such as KSC, who, since 2000-2001, had to cosmetically change their Glock replica logos due to violations.
Definitely, that's not recommended today.
But even now, active trafficking in black-market "virgin" airsoft AEGs or grey-market restorable-trademark replicas is still booming.
In either of these cases, as well as your own, the lack of obliterated trademarks as well as barrel tip orange makes these items subject to seizure under US import laws..... It's a "variable risk."
Allen
aka DumboRAT