Al handled custom on eBay

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Anybody else see this --- skeletonized, latchless Jody Samson ground 4" Utility with Al handles on ebay ----- one minute it was there, the next, it was gone. Guess the owner got an offer he couldn't refuse. Ya' know I wanted it !! :( Damn !!!!
Dudley-did you beat me to it ???? No more salsa for you man !!! :)
 
Did you et a picture?
It went by too qwick for me.
There's another Vintage 1904 patent. Billings and Spencer. Boy they want a lot for it.

There's a Ka-bar ruler fishing bali, too.
 
Blade_420 ---- sorry, no pic. It was there with 6 days and XXX hours to go -- put it on my "watch list" and --"poof" it was gone. Hate it when that happens !! IMO it's unethical -- oh well, the world is full of ^%$* !!!
 
ebay probably killed the auction. It says specifically that butterfly knives are illegal for ebay auction.
 
Mr. Yoda ---- I have no personal knowlege as to why the sale was withdrawn -- I do however, suspect that the seller got an offer from "close to home" that over-rode his business ethic. Damned shame to get folk's hopes up and then "withdraw" from the auction process. Hopefully there will be more of these "goodies" in all of our paths !!
 
yeah, it is pretty weak for him to put it up on ebay and pull it off, if that's what he did.

I have heard different stories about ebay and balis, basically, if they don't see it, it gets through, but I thought if they caught it they would pull it.

Lets find out who it was and ask him who his supplier is...muahaha
 
Complain to eBay. It really is wrong for sellers to withdraw an item like that. In one case that I am aware of, a knife was withdrawn when Bernard Levine asserted that it was a fake. That's a good reason to terminate an auction. But, just because your buddy makes you a nice offer is not. As a seller, I'm obligated to buy the knife if the auction terminates and I'm the high bidder. Withdrawing a bid is possible, but it's really seen as bad form. I'm aware of one case where a buyer withdrew a bid of something like $10,000. He's intended to bid $100.00 and got his decimal misplaced. He made the withdrawal within a minute or two of placing the bid and immediately made a new bid of $100. I thought that was reasonable. But, sellers get really, really mad if buyers just randomly change their mind and withdraw their bids. Sellers should give buyers the same courtesy that they expect themselves.
 
I have heard different stories about ebay and balis, basically, if they don't see it, it gets through, but I thought if they caught it they would pull it.

Because they are a California company and their equipment is physically located in California, eBay seems to feel that they must apply California weapons laws. (I've asked them several times why they feel that CA weapons laws apply, but that CA sales tax laws do not. They've never answered that question.)

CA weapons laws do not allow balisongs with blades longer than 2".

Ebay will terminate the auction if someone complains about it. Ebay also has a search bot that is contantly searching new listings for key words. Bali-Song, Balisong, Benchmade, butterfly knife, are some of the key words they look for. When the bot finds a potentially troublesome auction, that auction is added to a suspect list. Ebay has a staff of people who spend their whole day just looking at auctions that either people have complained about or that the bot has tagged. Complaints get priority. So, if there's a lot of complaints, the auction police may not get around to looking at the bot's list and an auction may squeak by.

If you want to successfully sell a balisong on eBay, do this: Do not use one of the hot words in the title or the description. Do not post a picture. Keep your auction short.

But, if you want to get maximum money for your knife, you need to make a good title and description, add a nice picture, and let it run for a long time.



I have a friend who collects beer cans (don't get me started. What a stupid thing to collect...). Anyway, he doesn't want your Bud can, though you'd be surprised how many seemingly identical Bud cans he has, "This one is from March of 1993. They changed the silk screens and they made an error. See? There's a little red spec right below that e."

"Ok, are you sure that's just not a little bit of the ink that splashed or something?"

"Oh, no no no. There was an error in the silk screen. They corrected in in April. There's only a few million of these babies out there. This can is worth a fortune."

"If you say so." (You know, if I wasn't so @#%$ honest, I could make a fortune with a red Sharpie pen.)

Anyway, one of the places he often picks up these wonderful cans is on eBay. One of the real prizes is to find a can that still has the beer in it. Yes, that 1993 misprint can is worth more than other 1993 misprint cans because it still has the "beer" in it.

Well, I don't know about you, but I don't think Bud's very good to begin with and nine year old Bud must just be horrible. Furthermore, some of his cans are fifty and sixty years old. I really don't want to even think about what sixty year old beer tastes like. The people who pay hundreds, even thousands of dollars for these cans are not buying them for the beer.

If you read eBay's rules, you can sell alcholic beverages on eBay even though eBay does not have a liquor license. Wow! That is a blatent violation of not just California state law, but Federal law too! Ebay openly flaunts these laws. Why? Their reasoning (and it's just their reasoning, not any legal ruling or permit or anything, just what they want to be true) is that the value of these items comes from the label or the container, not from the alcoholic beverage they they happen to contain. Auctions of alcoholic beverages are acceptible as long as the majority of the value of the item comes from the label or the container, not from the alcoholic beverage.

I've argued and argued with them that in many cases, the value of a balisong comes not from its potential use as a weapon but from its collecible value. Just as no beer can collector is going to open his 1993 misprint Bud can and drink the beer thus cutting the value of his precious can in half, no knife collector is going to use a one-of-a-kind Bali-Song Cutlery High Hollow with ivory inserts to roll some guy for his wallet. But, they've never bought it.
 
Wow:eek:, a Billings & Spencer Balisong for sale! I've never seen one offered before, good luck Mr. Gollnick:).
 
It's OK Pete. If it's any consolation, those aluminum handled ones don't flip well. Those handles are too soft, so they get scratched and nicked easily. And unless you're constantly holding them, they get very cold very quickly.... But they sure are hard to come by. If you ever run across a Tanto one with lead shots hammered into some of the holes in the handle, that one used to be mine..... ;)
 
......I never saw that one. Haven't had enough time to go on the 'hunt' lately. :(
 
Chuck - thanks for the straight scoop on eBay and balis.
Dudley and Tony -- thanks for the input! DD, I'm glad you're busy, maybe some of the rest of us will score for a change !! :) Tony, I'll sure keep an eye out for your shot filled Al knife -- if I find it do you want it back ??? :) Hmmmm - maybe I should keep it as a collector piece because of its provenance to you ??!! Yeah, that's it!! Anybody have this "jewel" and want to sell it? I didn't plan on "flipping it" more than a couple of times -- more interested in it for the collection. Gee, if I find one and add shot -- hmmmm !! :)
 
Originally posted by OUCH
Hmmmm - maybe I should keep it as a collector piece because of its provenance to you
You'll have a better shot at winning lotto if you think any provenance to me is going to incease the value of a bali :D

BTW, YES I want it back. Please... ;)
 
Ah...aluminum balis.... :)

Here's a couple to wet the appetite...

miller_aluminum.jpg


and

erickson_scrim.jpg


and one that might be aluminum, might be magnesium (open to opinions)...

miller_pearl.jpg


-Michael
 
Any possibilities to get some more information about your knives? Like maker etc? I know the one in the middle, Chefget, that's an Erickson scrim. But the two others? The top one could look like a Chuck Gedraitis bali, but I'm not sure... And the last one? Ron Miller?

Thanks.
 
Penguin, sorry - I deleted the link when I saw the "item was withdrawn". Apologies for not responding sooner, really busy for the last week or so. :(
 
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