all one caliber, or two common ones?

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Midget

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i'm toying with the idea of getting a glock to compliment my 1911 in .45ACP.

my understanding is the .45ACP and 9mm luger are the most common and popular handgun rounds in the world, which is an aspect i very much like.

but i'm torn between the decision of getting a glock in 9mm luger, thus having the ability to use both popular rounds on the market, OR, stay true to having one and only one caliber in my stockpile (i already have 700+ rounds in .45 that i keep in the back of my closet). i like the simplicity of all my weapons using the same bullet, for some reason.

it will either be a g26 or g30.
 
Hi Midget.
just my two cents. glocks are for sure the ugly and blocky, but they work really well. Just make sure you are comfortable with the grip angle and the grooves. I would consider only 9mms. THE glock has been designed around that caliber and 17, 19, 26 are still the most reliable glocks around.
I personally don't like the 26. feels blockier and i can't shoot it well without mag. extension. I love the 19. perfect compromise. 15 rounds. hyper fast follow up shots. the 9s are also a tad slimmer than 45s, and if you are planning on carring it does makes a difference. (at least for me, but i'm a small guy). I love 1911s, but if you need a reliable, lightweight, wear resistent tool, you cannot go wrong with a glock.
if you want to stick with 45s, take a look at the new Springfield armory xds. if i'm not wrong, they just started to make an even more compact xd 45 with extended magazine included.
http://www.springfield-armory.com/index.shtml
These guns are made in croatia, and were imported as hs2000 before mama springfield got in business with them.
xds proved themselves reliable and some people claims this design to be superior than Gaston's. I personally like the grip safety a lot.
some other criticized xds for their poor finish. The problem has been solved using the same finish that glocks use. (actually it's not a finish, it's a deep metal treatment that will protect the gun even when the finish wears off).
glock calls it TENIFER, springfield calls it MELONITE.
plus xds come with gear.

good luck!
 
Midget said:
it will either be a g26 or g30.
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I have a multi-caliber household ;), but I see nothing wrong with staying with .45. While I have not fired the G30, I have fired G21, and I think it is absolutely fantastic. The recoil and controllability of that gun are superb. I much prefer it to any 9 mm Glock I have ever used, even though I like 9 mm.

BTW, not to mess with your caliber choices any more, but G22 in .40 is sweet.

Now watch for the 10 mm fans to come out of the woodwork. :D
 
I carry a 10mm Glock model 20, but it's a pretty big (fat) pistol. If you have large hands, and don't mind the "hunt" for 10mm ammo, that's the caliber to get...ALOT of power, and ALOT of shots in one (hi-cap) magazine...With that being said, the Glock .40 caliber model 23 is an EXCELLENT "all-around" pistol, and is worth a "look".
 
The G17 is a hard service pistol to beat for general use. Ammunition is dirt cheap so you can practice with it a LOT!

If you get a Glock 22 you can buy a barrel for 9mm (not factory) that will work with a 9mm magazine and of course the 357 Sig conversion is easy too! If you want the large Glock form factor, I'd got with G20 in 10mm unless you aren't shooting hunting loads, in which case the 40S&W is a better choice. I CCW'ed a G20 for many years.
 
well, the reason why i'm interested in 9mm and .45acp is they are such common rounds and are/were military standard, so... basically, i want to be able to go anywhere in the world and be able to find the right ammo to feed my gun.

i'm going to the range tmo to give the g26 a try. i've fired the g19 before and liked it. i'm actually looking for something more compact though.
 
i want to be able to go anywhere in the world and be able to find the right ammo to feed my gun.
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I see that idea a lot, and every time I wonder about the reasoning behind it. Is there any reasoning behind it? What country do you think you can go to and:

1) You can bring your pistol
2) But not enough ammunition
3) Once you're there you'll be able to buy pistol ammunition
4) But only in a couple of calibers

Fifty years ago there were countries in Africa and South America like that, but that was fifty years ago.... (And even then only if we define "enough ammunition" as "enough for lots and lots of target shooting.")
 
Cougar Allen said:
I see that idea a lot, and every time I wonder about the reasoning behind it. Is there any reasoning behind it? What country do you think you can go to and:

1) You can bring your pistol
2) But not enough ammunition
3) Once you're there you'll be able to buy pistol ammunition
4) But only in a couple of calibers

Fifty years ago there were countries in Africa and South America like that, but that was fifty years ago.... (And even then only if we define "enough ammunition" as "enough for lots and lots of target shooting.")
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Ouch... reality hurts... ;) :)

actually a very good point.
If in the US, it's quite easy to get ammo.
Here in Europe (France, actually), it is very hard to get ammo. It is almost easier to get the gun than the bullets (I think it was Chris Rock calling for a bullet control rather than a gun control).
In the very unlikely scenario that you ever need ammo in France, your pistol should be a .22 : it is the easier round to get.

Just my 2 euro cents.

Antoine

PS : I don't have guns (although I would like one for target shootin) but I thought some calibers were easier to shoot than other, due to recoil and power.
A caliber smaller than .45 could make your shooting practice more fun and maybe less painful for your wrists.
 
Addressing the "most popular calibers," it may be skewed to military use only.
Military calibers in foreign countries can be tightly controlled, if not banned outright for civilian use. So the choice of caliber can be counter-intuitive. In Natoland, 9mm may be restricted on a country by country basis.

So, the availablilty may rest on what you can import or scrounge from "issue." That can get tough, too. Hopefully we'll get views of what pitfalls may be in Turkey, as different from Italy, etc.

I would just bet the best round for one won't be the optimum round for the other, accuracy-wise. So two different loads in stock invites a different caliber right there - and if you reload, shouldn't be a major problem with additional dies.

I have a G19 - but, honestly, preferred the 1911 and Berreta service pistols on the line, even with my small hands. See if you can test fire at a cooperating dealer.
 
I would go with 9mm over .45 in a Glock. (Actually, I did- I have a G19) IMO, there's no reason to get a Glock .45. You want a .45, get a 1911 (it sounds like you did). If you already have a 1911, is there something you think a Glock .45 will do better? Now if you want a 9mm, get a Glock. Everybody knows the virtues of the Glock 9mm, there's no need to get into it here.

9mm is more common than .45acp almost everywhere, and is the most economical service round there is. I personally enjoy having guns in multiple calibers, it gives you a more interesting range of stuff to shoot.
 
moonwilson said:
...If you already have a 1911, is there something you think a Glock .45 will do better?...
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Glock...No thumb safety to "turn off" under STRESS.
Glock...Less felt recoil, due to "plastic" frame absorbing some of the recoil.
Glock...Magazine holds more rounds.
Glock...No tang or hammer to bite into web of hand.
 
glockman99 said:
Glock...No thumb safety to "turn off" under STRESS.
Glock...Less felt recoil, due to "plastic" frame absorbing some of the recoil.
Glock...Magazine holds more rounds.
Glock...No tang or hammer to bite into web of hand.
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Glock magazine holds more than 14? Para ordnance p14 or other Hi cap 1911

Less felt recoil because plastic absorbs? Where did you get this? I figured less weight =more percieved recoil. You know..physics.

Tang/hammer bite? Two words: beaver tail.

THumb safety is valid though. And I found Glock point naturally, better than a 1911 variant.

I like glocks as a beater gun. Who cares if plastic gets dinged up.

I don't think either have an edge over the other objectively.


Got the money get one of each.;) In all calibers!



Paul
 
Back in 1968 both Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King were assasinated. This was 5 years after John F Kennedy was assasinated. It looked to me like we might be headed towards gun confiscations. I had to ask myself what I would buy if I wanted it to last indefinitely and have a huge ammo availability. I went for the simplest gun that John Browning designed, the highly evolved Browning High Power (P35). It would work on almost any type/brand of 9mm parabellum ammo. It worked really well with cast slugs should I need to make my own. The design was simplified down to the point where it even dispensed with the swinging link in the barrel lock.

My other backup was a .22 rimfire magnum revolver. This worked with a dual-use pistol and rifle ammo. If handgun ammo was banned there was a hope of getting the .22 ammo.

In either case I could stockpile a lot of ammo cheap.
 
pcnorton said:
Less felt recoil because plastic absorbs? Where did you get this? I figured less weight =more percieved recoil. You know..physics.
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Try it. I did and was amazed. Definitely a softer kick because of plastic construction. It's like having a rubber recoil absorber.

Tang/hammer bite? Two words: beaver tail.
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In most cases that's an extra cost mod.

Mind you, I fired 1911s that were dream-like, and I would love to own them, but they were race guns, mucho dineros. I think out of the box Glock has an upper hand.
 
imho the poly frames on glocks and kahrs does soak up some recoil.

a stock glock is a pretty good pistol imho, most 1911s require some work for reliability, kimbers dont though.

just depends on what ya want, i personally dont like para 1911s w/the high cap mags, or the large frame glock 10MM/.45ACPs, and i have a large hand, the 9MM and .40 are the way to go in a glock imho, but then again just depends on what ya want. one of my buds who lives in alaska loves his glock 10MMs, he has the full size and the compact, IIRC ted nugent likes the glock 10MM too, is kinda hard to find good ammo in 10MM though.
 
SIFU1A said:
...is kinda hard to find good ammo in 10MM though.
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Federal 165 grain JHP & 165 grain Hydrashok.
Winchester 185 grain Silvertip.

Those are 3 of the best 10mm rounds, and I don't have any problem finding that ammo.
 
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