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Hey guys...I have decided to make my own dog food because I am tired of the crap you can find at the grocery stores. The only problem is, I don't know how! I bought a chicken yesterday which i boiled in addition to some brown rice...but proportions and other foods I don't know anything about.

Sooooooo...what do you feed to your pet?

By the way, my pup turned 1 in May and is around 60 pounds
 
Personally, I have found that finding a quality dry dog food that does not contain corn products and provides all of the necessary nutritional requirements is the best way to go, unless you are an expert in canine nutrition. There are many excellent prepared dog foods on the market - you just need to find the one that works best for your dog and your budget.

I won't recommend any homemade dog food recipes for you, but there is plenty of information available on the internet on that topic. My fear would be that unless you educate yourself on canine nutritional requirements, you could do your dog a disservice by going the homemade route.

There are plenty of dog owners who spend time every single day preparing fresh food for their pets. I am not one of them, as I want to ensure that my dogs are getting their nutritional needs met.

That being said, with the recent pet food recall, many pet owners are making their own dog food. Though some experts argue that a homemade diet is best for dogs, this is best done temporarily until you can consult your veterinarian, as canines have definite nutritional requirements. Dietary changes should be done slowly to avoid digestive upsets. Recipes or ingredients may be rotated to ensure nutritional variety.

Do not feed your dog bones, especially cooked bones. Fragments can become lodged in the digestive tract. Canines in the wild who eat bones have the benefit of consuming hair and hide too, which have been found to ‘pad’ the bone fragments and aid in their passing. Other foods to avoid that are dangerous for dogs are chocolate, mushrooms, macadamia nuts, grapes, raisins, onions, and garlic.

Good luck. And it probably could take several months before you notice any improvement or problems with the homemade dog food diet you are preparing for your dog. These changes take time, and you might not notice the subtle changes as you see your dog every day.

Be care that you don't do more harm than good, even with the best of intentions.
 
Great advice. One of the main reasons I am doing this is a want to know and control exactly what my dog.eats. I did a fair amount of research last night but its hard to find consistent advice. For example, the ratio of protein, carbs, and vegetables varies a pretty decent amount from site to site. I will definitely check with his vet..thats one bit of advice that stays pretty consistent lol
 
Hey guys...I have decided to make my own dog food because I am tired of the crap you can find at the grocery stores.

Uh... that right there is probably the reason you are finding CRAP dog food. It's pretty much a guarantee that if you can find your dog food at the grocery store, it's not something you want to feed your dog if you want the better quality dog food.

You will need to go to a pet store - PetSmart and PetCo both sell higher quality dog food as do most smaller pet stores. Stay away from grocery stores and Wal-Mart type stores for your dog food.

Since your dog is over a year old, the growth plates are probably pretty much finished with whatever they are going to do. I found that my younger dogs did not do well with lamb products, but the older ones did well.

My dogs are on a chicken/brown rice/vegetable dry food. You need to determine how much protein and fat your breed of dog should have. It will vary by activity level, coat, breed, etc. etc. I personally don't care for Science Diet for regular food, but I believe it is often used to treat certain health conditions.

Many dogs tend to have allergies to corn products, and it is usually best to avoid dog food and treats that have any corn

Here are some links to sites that do dog food comparisons. They are worth checking out.

http://www.dogfoodscoop.com/

http://www.feedmypet.com/dog-food-comparison.html
 
I'll post a.picture of him..because we don't even know what kind he is. My sister says pit bull, husky, German shep and I think that's close pretty close to being right. I'll definitely check out those sites..thanks!
 
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Lamb and Rice Eukaneuba dry. My Gracie is more regular than a well run privately owned bus company. I do not have time to prepare anything. She gets occaisional table meat scraps that I will mix in for treats, but I like to keep her lean and squirrel chasing mean.
 
I also use chicken and white rice with lentils and canned green beans thrown in the mix.
 
Blue Buffalo is a pretty good dog food. I have a Great Dane that has a very sensitive stomach, it took forever to find a food that did not upset her. Blue Buffalo has fewer filler ingredients, and I do not think there is corn at all in it (don't hold me to that)

There have been times that she was sick, and I fed her 50/50 ground turkey boiled and rice. Many of the better dog foods use peas in the food for more protein.

Good luck to you, whatever you choose to do :)
 
I've fed my dogs home made food from time to time including for Buddy, who was going through cancer and Bear, who was very very old. They certainly like it.

I usually used rice, some frozen mixed veggies and whatever meat was on sale. I generally did about a third a third and a third by eyeball volume. Sometimes I would also put in a can of fat free gravy or tomato sauce if it was a little dry or too bland. I also used pasta and potatoes once in a while but I think the brown rice is the best.

I did discuss it with two vets and at one point one of them had given me a formula but I can't remember it. My dogs have always been happy and a good weight when on the stew. I'd like to say they were healthy, but they were usually put on the stew because they weren't healthy and wouldn't eat so I can't but they seemed to all do well\better on the stew.

I prefer quality dry food though, you know you are giving them the right nutrition, its a lot easier to feed them, less clean up, no worries about spoilage and even using premium dog food its cheaper.
 
My Saint Bernard tells me what she likes by eating it. I can buy Purina Dog Chow, or Kibbles and Bits or any number of the higher dollar Alpo, or Pedigree dry foods and canned foogs but it just sits in the bowl and the birds end up eating it. I figure stray cats and coons as well as opossums come by at night and take whats left during the times when I tried something else and she turned it down but the point is the dog isn't interested in it. She is 11 years old and has been brought up on Pedigree canned and Ole Roy Wal-Mart brand dog food. The reason thats the case is because thats what she eats. I put the old Roy in the bowl and she eats it the birds and other critters don't so to me thats a big enough tell. I'm really not too concerned about whats in it. Whatever it is its working. Besides that its all rendered meats and veges pretty much the same as each other anymore I think.

Whatever the case all I know is this. The average life expectancy of a Saint Bernard is 8 years and bringing her up on that hasn't done anything to keep her from living to a ripe old age. 11 is pretty good for a Saint and from all indications she is going to make 12 because she is still pretty healthy according to my vet and it may well be related to the food she eats. My Great Pyr that died a couple summers ago lived to a ripe old age the same way on the same food. So from my stand point. You can't do much better than store bought. Hell its probably better food for the dog than what we feed ourselves nutrition wise I mean.

STR
 
What is it about corn that affects dogs? I have heard it's not good for them. I give mine Science Diet. It's a bit pricey but it'ssupposed to be decent quality. It does have corn meal in it though.
 
You're putting way too much thought into this if you ask me. You can either:
  • Feed them fresh meat. Dogs grow to a healthy old age on tripe alone. You can add heart, liver, kidney and other organ meat.
  • Feed them the established brands dog muesli (is how I think of it :D)
In both cases, you might add supplements analogous to what humans use, but intended for dogs. Their use and value is disputed though.

Personally, I think the odds of you improving over mother nature or well-paid scientists are remote. ;)
 
My Saint Bernard tells me what she likes by eating it. I can buy Purina Dog Chow, or Kibbles and Bits or any number of the higher dollar Alpo, or Pedigree dry foods and canned foogs but it just sits in the bowl and the birds end up eating it. I figure stray cats and coons as well as opossums come by at night and take whats left during the times when I tried something else and she turned it down but the point is the dog isn't interested in it. She is 11 years old and has been brought up on Pedigree canned and Ole Roy Wal-Mart brand dog food. The reason thats the case is because thats what she eats. I put the old Roy in the bowl and she eats it the birds and other critters don't so to me thats a big enough tell. I'm really not too concerned about whats in it. Whatever it is its working. Besides that its all rendered meats and veges pretty much the same as each other anymore I think.

Whatever the case all I know is this. The average life expectancy of a Saint Bernard is 8 years and bringing her up on that hasn't done anything to keep her from living to a ripe old age. 11 is pretty good for a Saint and from all indications she is going to make 12 because she is still pretty healthy according to my vet and it may well be related to the food she eats. My Great Pyr that died a couple summers ago lived to a ripe old age the same way on the same food. So from my stand point. You can't do much better than store bought. Hell its probably better food for the dog than what we feed ourselves nutrition wise I mean.

STR

Good for you. That's a long time for a St. Bernard and I hope she lives even longer. I love the giant breeds but it breaks my heart that they have short lifespans. My Bear recently died. He was St. Bernard\German Shepard mix. He was about 125 lbs for most of his life, so he wasn't particularly big by giant breed standards but still big by most. My Vet couldn't believe he lived to be 15 and a half.
 
Good for you. That's a long time for a St. Bernard and I hope she lives even longer. I love the giant breeds but it breaks my heart that they have short lifespans. My Bear recently died. He was St. Bernard\German Shepard mix. He was about 125 lbs for most of his life, so he wasn't particularly big by giant breed standards but still big by most. My Vet couldn't believe he lived to be 15 and a half.

I had a dog named Bear before my Pyr and this Saint. Daisy, my Saint, is about 135 pounds. I've kept her weight down which has helped to prolong her life I think. Her sister went to friends and died years ago at 180 plus pounds and her brother who ironically ended up in obedience classes with her as a puppy died before that at over 200 so she has the potential to balloon out if I let her. She isn't starving or anything but I've kept a close watch on her weight because I know how hard it would be to get control of it again if she did get excessively large. I think it would affect her ability to get up and down at this point also so lighter is better. :thumbup:

Sorry to hear about you dog. Thats the hardest part about having animals. Just so sad to have to let em go and each time it comes to that I find myself asking why I do this to myself over and over again. Such is life I guess.

STR
 
I had a little red Border Terrier that had food allergies, and had skin problems as a result. My since gone vet was a specialist in allergies and she told me to put him on a diet of fish and potatos. I did this for about a year. Baked white fish like Cod or Flounder. There were more than a few occasions we shares a dinner together. Anyways when he was on this diet he flourished, and was able to get on a kibble.
 
kibble is the cheapest and occasionally would finely chop a whole raw chicken and feed it to the dogs. I have a manual mincer and that works well in breaking down the entire chicken into non dangerous bits and nothings wasted. I add a little garlic to it and pumpkin and green vegs too.
 
We went through all kind of problems with out dog and his food. We thought about making our own but felt it wasn't worth the risk of malnutrition. We found several brands that are all natural and only have ingredients that one would recognize as food. No dog food is regulated by the FDA but I would have no problem eating my dogs food if necessary.

Try these.

http://www.chickensoupforthepetloverssoul.com/

http://www.wellnesspetfood.com/index.aspx

We have tried both. We started with the "Chicken Soup" but it was too high in calories and had to switch to the diet version of the Wellness. Check out the ingredients on both. We have recommended Wellness to many people and the people who switched have been really happy. They say their dogs are more active and have healthier coats. Even one of our vet techs switched and her Golden Retriever's allergy problems have gone away.
 
Depending upon how much time and effort you want to put into it....do check out the websites mentioned above and learn how to read the ingredient labels. You'll be better able to understand the quality of the overall formula and maybe learn a bit more about what is needed to create your own. There are minimum standards for dog formulas to be considered and certified as being able to support a healthy life. Granted some folks or I should say dogs do well on one type of inexpensive food all of their lives. I subscribe to the philosophy that we should change the food (if you're feeding kibble) every three or four months just for the variety of nutrients (just make the shift gradually). I have a couple of high energy boxers with sensitive stomachs. I notice fairly quickly when a food is not doing well for them and see it in their coats fairly quickly also. I've built up a list of foods that my dogs like and do well on. Mostly low to no grain, no garbage, no sweeteners. Prices range from very inexpensive to way up there. Some high end foods, though great, are too rich for them. So here's what I use, some better than others: Nature's Domain (inexpensive and available at Costco no less), Nutro Ultra, Blue Diamond, Organix, Halo, Bil Jac (not the best, but not bad, the dogs really like it and it seems to create a nice coat), Avoderm, Origins, and Acana. I'm just starting with the Origins and Acana. They are higher in protein than most foods and grain free. They're made in Canada and very expensive which may limit how much can be afforded. And they do get high quality meat and vegetable dinner scraps. So I guess I'm as mentally ill and obsessive about my dog's food as I am about my knives. Hope this helps.
 
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