Amphibious Sandals?

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I'm looking for (another) pair of water impervious, comfortable sandals. I'd rather not have any with toe thongs, and I'm mainly interested in ones that are currently available. Suggestions? How about the Teva Vector, or universal Approach or Guide models?

JK


 
A friend in the AsianForum said chacos is better than the Tevas.
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If you get Tevas, get ones with buckles instead of velcro. Mine have velcro and it's not holding too well after a year.
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">A friend in the AsianForum said chacos is better than the Tevas. </font>

I've looked at the Chacos, but I'm not sure if I like the idea of only one continuous piece of strapping for the entire attachment system. I do like the Vibram soles, however. Also, after seeing them on someone else, I'm not sure if I really like the way they look.

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If you get Tevas, get ones with buckles instead of velcro. Mine have velcro
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Thanks for the advice, Frank. How do yours fare with odor? I had a pair of Terra Dactyls , and I couldn't wear them for very long at all without creating a "less than desirable" odor. The upper line of Tevas, however, have soles made out of a different material, that are supposed to do better. These have improved fastening systems on them, as well.

JK
 
I've never noticed an odor but the straps do make my feet sweat more than normal flip flops.
 
I have had two pair of Tevas. The velcro Terydactyl (sp) and the Spitfire. The Velcro Tevas suck once wet. They just wont stay on your feet and once the velcro gets full of sand you can let them dry forever but the velcro is never the same.

The Spitfire is basically the Universal Approach but without the lugged bottom. I freakin love em. I have canoed, hiked, surfed, swam, boogie boarded, ridden bike, and ran in them for about two years now. Absolutly the most comfortable things you can put on your feet. The bits of neoprene make the straps comfy. The buckles means you adjust them once and forget them. The shock pad in the heel is wonderful. I am considering a pair of their closed shoes now. As far as smell. My first pair the terydactals STANK !! These are made of some special rubber that is supposed to prevent that and it does a good job. Every now and then I bring them in the shower with me and wash them with shampoo.
Alex
 
Currently have two pair of Tevas, the Universal Approach and the i forgot what. The UA are quite good, but they do have that odor problem. Buckles are the main reason I bought them. The other was the neoprene, but in humid environments (such as seoul and bangkok monsoons) I get a rash underneath where the padding hits. They're not cinched up tight either, so that's not the problem. Plus, the lining on the neoprene started peeling away pretty quick, a problem shared by a friend with a pair of UA. The other pair are velcro with neoprene padding. Got those because they were on sale and actually in my size (I get excited when I find anything in Asia my size). They have an anti-fungal "Brain Drain" topsole which has worked quite well. Not too stinky. But the same problem with the neoprene lining peeling and the rash. Could be just my sensitive skin though. Or the fact that I haven't washed them.
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I still have my 8 year old first pair of Tevas. Beat all to hell but still going strong. Checked out the Chacos in a store last week and they looked pretty damn solid too.

ZF
 
Aaaaah, perfect timing!

I'm just back from a three week trip to Japan. Before that I was looking for comfortable waterproof sandals since the weather in Japan is quite humid and hot at this time (currently it's rainy season over there). Another thing is that you always have to take off your shoes so I didn’t want to have warm sneakers which would overheat my feet and give them the (familiar) locker room smell.

So I went to our big local Any Mountain and checked their stuff. Until then I had never heard about Chacos and was basically looking for (another) pair of (padded) Tevas since the ones I have are not too well suited for long term usage and will give me discomfort from the straps after some time. When I took the first look at the shoe shelf, I immediately noticed the different look of the Chacos. Their soles are thick and look very comfortable since they are contoured to the sole of your feet. The overall design is simple up to the point where you could call it Spartan. So I gave it a try and they were the first pair I tried. After that I tried on almost all the sandals they had in that store but always came back to the Chacos for comfort comparison, because they definitely felt the best on my foot. The price is a little bit higher than comparable simple designs, but the quality definitely shows in the details. The sole is Polyurethane and should last a very long time. So long, that the company offer a resoling service. As mentioned, the sole has a foot bed, which makes it very comfortable to walk in these sandals. The strap is fairly soft and wraps the foot nicely without giving discomfort anywhere and the sliding buckle gives you the ability to micro-adjust the strap with a single pull. There is nothing to unhook, fasten, loop or latch. A great idea!

So then I went with the Z-1 with the Vibram sole, since my main focus was on walking and not water usage, except the occasional beach walk. The advantage of the Z-1 over the Z-2 is that you don’t have the toe loop. I noticed that the continuous strap didn’t quite mold that perfectly to my big toe and would have given my a blister in short time. Another thing is that you can’t wear that type (and the Z-3, which the store didn’t have in stock) with socks.

Ok, after all this introduction you might ask, but how do they wear? The answer is, that they fulfilled all my expectations. I was wearing them almost exclusively with and without socks for almost the entire three weeks. On average we where constantly on our feet from 10am to 6-7 pm. I didn’t get a blister, hot spot or any other discomfort with socks, without socks and in very hot and humid conditions I got a very slight hot spot on the inner side of the foot, where the front strap crosses. But that only after several hours and the spot disappeared over night completely. Another thing I was worried about that the sole might rub my socks into lint. Surprisingly it didn’t. It seems the Polyurethane has a non grabbing surface, which doesn’t rub too much off the fabric. Also interesting the abrasion resistance of the Vibram outer sole. The sandals look as if I’d rarely used them. There is just the slightest signs of wear on the heels, that’s it. My wife also bought new shoes before the vacation and their soles look as if she had them for six moths already.

Overall I would say, if you get the chance to try a pair of Chacos, do so. They look simple and they definitely are it, but the fit and quality is outstanding. All the overbuild looking Tevas with Velcro here, buckle there and stitched padding all over look cool on the shelf, but when it comes to wearing quality the Chacos will beat them hands down for general walking. Besides that they are made right here in US of A and not in some labor exploiting third world country.

Your mileage my vary, but I for my part found a nice pair of sandals which most likely will give me pleasure for a long time to come. And no, I don’t work for that company or are in any other way related to them.

[This message has been edited by Ralf (edited 06-13-2001).]
 
Good post!
Ralf, I appreciate your write up on the Chacos and good job. I have never heard of Chacos until this post. The one line I LOVE is "MADE IN USA".

I have a 20 year old pair of original Tevas that I bought when Teva was a small company and they were hand made in Santa Barbara, Ca. I wear them constantly in the spring and summer, kayaking and hiking and they are pretty ragged now but they are 20 YEARS OLD! I decided to go check out some new ones and was shocked at how cheap they were compared to my old ones. Then I noticed that they are ALL made in China now. I shook my head and walked out thinking my old Santa Barbara made ones were going to have to last awhile longer.

Later I did some checking on Teva and found out they are big, big supporters of left wing causes and support all the radical environmental groups. I shot them an e-mail and asked if they are so big on left wing and environmental issues why are all of their products made in China where everyone knows even SLAVE labor exsists? I received a terse response that they inspect their China factories regularly and they make sure the employees are treated with respect and paid well, (yeah, sure). They also told me that if their sandals were still made in the USA, they would have to charge $200-$250.00 for a pair. I politely e-mailed them back and said I didn't believe for a minute their sandals, if US made, would cost $200.00 and told them their China made sandals are inferior.

Believe me, I have nothing against free trade and AM NOT a USA OR NOTHING radical but I'm just tired of Chinese made stuff. I realize most of the buying public has never known anything else so it's acceptable. I just refuse to accept it.

That's why posts like this one are exciting because there still IS stuff out here made well and made right here in the good ol' USA. So I guess the next question is; "Hey Teva, Chacos are made in the US and they DON'T cost $250.00. Wonder how they do it?"

By the way, I checked on the Chaco line, www.gearpro.com and the Chaco line runs from $69.99 to $84.99. That's LESS than the Chinese made Tevas were selling for at the retailer I checked them out at.
 
It looks like I should re-examine the Chacos line. I too, believe in supporting US manufacture with my wallet, especially when there is considerable evidence that the products are superior. I was turned off when I saw what the Chacos looked like on someone wearing them around, but maybe they will grow on me. Thanks a lot for your input!

JK
 
What Ralf said.

Chacos are definately the best. I've never had a more comfortable, long lasting pair of sandals than my Z1's. I feel like I'm lying to myself when I wear anthing else. Even my ecco's.

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I have a pair of Chacos that I've had for around 5 years. They are still going strong. If it's a matter of looks then look at it this way-ALL sport sandals are ugly. Also, I have heard that the company treats its retail dealers well, which in my experience usually translates to treating customers well.

The thing that got me to buy my Chacos was that they fit my wide foot well. The lack of velcro helped a lot too. I'm beginning to really loathe velcro. I've bought several "high quality" gear items in which the velcro was the first (or only) thing to wear out. Plus it makes that irritating noise.

Paul
 
If you are interested in chaco sandals you may want to check out their home page.
www.chacosan.com
Lots of neat pictures and background information.

I had never heard of them until I read this thread and was happy with my universal approach Teva's. But I too dislike chinese products and the chaco philosophy appeals to me.

I will try them on next chance I get.

protodoc
 
Thanks for the info! I needed a new pair of sandals and the Chacos seem to fit the bill (or the foot I should say)! Now another question, where is a good place to buy them?
 
I was in the market for some new sandals when I came across this post. I've been wearing cheap Target Birkenstock knock-offs simply because I would only wear them to the pool and for quick trips when I didn't want to bother putting on some sneakers. Well, I found myself wearing them ALL THE TIME! My mom said I hated wearing shoes as a kid and I guess wearing sandals is my compromise. Anyway, went to the local outdoors store and got some new Chacos Z1, all black. I love 'em!! Much more comfortable and secure and worth the money. Thanks guys!

-Trav
 
Yeah, well I read your guys' raves, then headed to REI; ended up with two pairs of Z-1's, one with the full lug Vibram sole and the other with the smoother sole. They are truly wonderful. A LOT more cushion and support even than Tevas.

My Tevas are now retired, along with my Birkies.

Thanks, Walt
 
What is the strap made of? Looking at them on line (the black color in particular), it looks kind of like cotton webbing. I wouldn't think this would be the case, however, for amphibious sandals.

JK
 
Ok guys I love the way my tevas feel but I love more

..... MADE IN THE USA

Ever since the plane incident over international space near China's coast line I have had a very sour taste for "made in china". As an ex servicemen and patriot I dont like the idea of helping to build the Chinese militery so they could shoot at American Volunteers!
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But this is for the politics forum.

Let me ask you guys who now own Chacos. What about the inability to adjust the strap that goes over your instep just behind the toes? The one in front. The only thing keeping me from buying a pair is that it would seem that it is a one size fits all kinda thing and I HATE THAT ! One size does not fit all. Well let me know. Thanks

Alex
 
Actually, the adjustment of tension is easy. Just remember to pull the straps from the inside of the sandle, not the outside. You adjust the front strap first, and the other is adjusted when you fasten the buckle and pull it tight. The salesman at REI showed me how to do it, and it is a snap. The strap is heavy duty nylon, not cotton.

Walt
 
Boriqua, the strap is looped through the sole and can be (micro) adjusted all around your foot, including the forefoot. And yes, it’s a nylon strap, but very soft with rounded (!) edges.
 
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