An edge angle/thickness comparison

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I've always wanted to try and see the exact angle and thickness that my various HI blades have. Might also be useful to others when planning a purchase, given the differences between kamis.

I figured instead of trying to take photos of the blades themselves, and wrestle with light and reflections, it would be easier to gently press the edge at the sweet spot into clay, then take a photo of that. Some of them were a little blurry, and hard to tell the front from the back, so I added lines.

First, the control group, a Benchmade 42 with the factory 40 degree edge.
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Next, my absolute favorite blade of any kind, in the entire world. My Giant Chitlangi Bowie, by Vim. 24.25" long, 59 ounces. Absolutely amazing, about a 20 degree angle! No wonder this thing cuts like a demon. This is one of the ones that really "called" to me, the instant I saw it.
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My Bura Tibetan short sword. 31.5", 43 oz. Surprisingly, a rather axelike 50 degrees, though with a very clear "appleseed" profile. I actually think Sher or maybe an apprentice put the final edge on this one. I'll probably thin the edge out with a diamond hone later, but it will most likely take a very long time. I reprofiled the tip on this one, and it took a solid hour of grinding with an x-coarse diamond file, to remove literally about 0.1 to 0.2 mm of metal! Bura does excellent work all around, but the heat treat is where he really proves himself as the royal kami.
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My ultra-light Chainpuri, by Sgt. Khadka. 18.5" long, 15 ounces. The handling is like no other edged weapon or tool I've ever held. About 35-40 degrees, and very subtly convex.
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A normal 21", 33 oz. Chitlangi by Vim. Unlike the Giant Bowie, about 35-40 degrees, with a moderately pronounced convex edge. He made this one rather thick and heavy by Chitlangi standards, the spine is a hefty 0.516" thick.
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A 15" and 18 oz. Sher Sirupati. Rather thick and axelike, even thicker than the Tibetan. About a 60 degree angle. Definitely a candidate for thinning out.
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My Bura Dukti sword. 27.5" long and 28.5 ounces. I noticed that the two Sher Duktis I saw for sale awhile ago, that caused me to order this one, were 36 and 37 ounces! Sher still likes making them heavy. This one's rather wedgelike, and 40 degrees. I initially thought there was a reverse distal taper, but it turns out I wasn't measuring very carefully. It actually stays the same thickness until about 4" from the tip, at which point it goes from 0.20" thick to 0.26" pretty rapidly, which concentrates quite a bit of weight in the tip.
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Finally, an entry level katana, Paul Chen I think. About 35-40 degrees, and you'll notice the amount of convexness is pretty similar to Sgt. Khadka's grind.
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I definitely learned a lot tonight.

I'm more determined than ever to make a 20" "Super" CAK from Sgt. Khadka be my next purchase. I think after that, a normal size 15" Chitlangi bowie by Vim. Just need some dough.
 
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I'd love to strike this AK mini chopper thru the clay and check the angles.

I just don't know how to put it. This knife is "right". It feels like part of me when I hold it. Big by States normal standards, but a "mini" to HI. The lines, thickness, and feel all work together in synergy, making it more than it seems at first.

I had no idea how much beauty and character neem wood has.

Hope every good person gets a knife that feels like this to them. WOW!

Kev
 
Ryan,
Thanks a bunch. That is some good work.

I tell ya what, Sgt. Khadka is right on in his creations.

Mark
 
Very cool documentation of the edge geometries! :thumbup:

I'd recommend something like this for the sharpening and maintenance forum as a sticky, but the newbies would post first and read later anyway. :D
 
Wow that's a great little run down you did there:thumbup:

I too was very surprised by how thin the edge was on my chit bowie. Mines a smaller variety around 15" give or take. However, it's one of the most blood thirsty knives I own. Fully sharpened down the entire edge with lots of mass. When it bites, it bites deep. A real meat cleaver:D

Thanks again. great job:)
 
Thanks for the comments, everyone.

I'd love to strike this AK mini chopper thru the clay and check the angles.

Hope every good person gets a knife that feels like this to them. WOW!

Definitely try it with your mini AK. I wasn't actually "hitting" the clay though, just very gently pushing in about 3/8" deep, then pulling out. The size of the pics make it look pretty big, though. Just regular old kid's plasteline modeling clay, and something like play-doh would work fine too. Anything that will hold a shape.

My Sgt. Khadka Chainpuri definitely has that "WOW!" feeling to it, but is optimized for "soft" targets instead of hard.

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I'd recommend something like this for the sharpening and maintenance forum as a sticky, but the newbies would post first and read later anyway.

I've definitely learned most of what I know about sharpening from my HIs. Like that freehanding it and ending up with a convex edge actually isn't necessarily a bad thing at all.

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I too was very surprised by how thin the edge was on my chit bowie. Mines a smaller variety around 15" give or take. However, it's one of the most blood thirsty knives I own. Fully sharpened down the entire edge with lots of mass. When it bites, it bites deep. A real meat cleaver

Thanks for making it hard to stick to my decision to get a 20" S-CAK first. :P

Mind posting some pics and specs for your Chit bowie? Been a long time since I've seen one.
 
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