An elk and a Buck

Flatlander1963

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Note what's on this guys hip...he takes good blade steel with him on his Elk Hunt.
Also, a second set of horns in the front of the truck bed.
Has anyone seen a tine/horn growing out of the skull like this guy???
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Maybe I'm too much of a skeptic, but I think he cut a hole and stuck a piece of antler in there.

Stuff like that just don't happen.
 
I am gonna guess BG has tongue in cheek on that one. As the wildlife biologist of this herd, werid antler growth happens. When that head is skinned it would likely show that 'tine' growing out of the base of one antler or the other. Likely along the outside of the skull but under the skin. The part that grows the antler is a not so big area at the base of the antler and it all grows out from that 'bud' structure. Velvet is the stuff on the outside of the antler that lets lots of blood flow deposit the minerals (principally calicum) that make the antler. All that said, I have seen some werid antler growth. My CO elk hunting buddy killed a young bull in Mont. whose antler base on one side was moved over in center of the elks skull. Sort of one regular and one in the middle. The odd antler looked misshapen also.

All that said, folks will do some odd things to get attention. Everything really odd like that should be taken with a grain of salt until proven from several reliable sources. Flatlander is reliable if that is one of his buddies. If its from the internet it 'could' have happened.....biological wise, so to speak, maybe.

DeSoto has a valid point below also, wildlife can survive some tough injuries. He makes a really good point that I may vote for. The antler could have slid inbetween the brain and the skull......man what a headache.
300Bucks.
 
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Has anyone seen a tine/horn growing out of the skull like this guy

I vote for an embedded broken off tine from battle with another bull. If it was bothering him, it ain't no more..... We have a park just west of St Louis called Lone Elk Park and had the fortune to watch two bulls butt antlers with each other for about 20 minutes last week. It's amazing they didn't poke each others eyes out....
 
Just looking at the scalp growth around the horn....I'd say its a odd growth. But what do I know.
This was a forward from an friend who's buddy knew the young man who mad the kill. I doubt its anything other than exactly what it looks like.
 
When that head is skinned it would likely show that 'tine' growing out of the base of one antler or the other. Likely along the outside of the skull but under the skin.

That's why I'm skeptical--I don't see any indication that the "thing" came from either antler base--only a big bulge for about three inches where it looks like it was inserted........and it looks more like a piece of old bone than an antler.

But......I don't have any biology degrees.

Just a PhD in skepticism.

:D
 
Definitely looks like a tine that has broken off of another bull. It even looks like the diameter of the tine decreases as it nears the entry point. Reminds me of a picture of a beaver that was killed by his own tooth that grew upward and passed through his eye socket.
 
Just looking at the scalp growth around the horn....I'd say its a odd growth. But what do I know.
This was a forward from an friend who's buddy knew the young man who mad the kill. I doubt its anything other than exactly what it looks like.
Cool pics, keep us updated if any photos turn up from the trip to the taxidermist with the skull fleshed out.
I was in an old Atlantic Research facility last week and one of the guys monitoring the clean up told me about "Bullwinkle", a white-tail with a paddle shaped antler that grew out the side of his skull, rather than from the top. Given the chemicals used there....he may glow in the dark as well.
 
Going with broken off lower tine, and 119. Bet he could have used a "Bayer".300/ch

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Maybe a 105, nah a 119
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Yes, thats what I'd go with on both accounts. Many here have said, when the animal is big use a bigger knife for quartering. DM
 
I don't know but looking at it again it looks like a burr around the middle horn. I usually carry two knives as well, a skinner and longer quartering blade. DM
 
Well, I've Googled my rear end off and haven't found any signs of an antler like that or a fake like that.

Mr. 300's closeup crop shows the skin at the base to be too neat and intact to have had a hole cut and the antler inserted.

The only question is why the antler would break at a thicker part rather than the thinner part.....or why it wouldn't have ripped loose rather than broken.

If it didn't rip loose it must have penetrated the skull, one would think--is that really possible?

Interesting and unique animal, that elk. One of a kind.

:)
 
Final final opinion. During August / September mountain elk rutting battles someone hit him hard enough to break the skull along that fissure line down the middle, what were those called, even people have them. It looks by the curve of the tine it went up and over toward the eye and since the elk was still alive,( it appears it was in photo ), the tip must have slide between brain and skull over to the bulge around the eye in the skull shape. Who knows what jerk, fall, twist or what broke off the tine. I explain the bulge around the tine as the elks body growing around the wound sealing things off. I wonder if the left eye was blinded by the action. Was the elk weak and thin ? Was he easy to sneak up on on the left side ?

Game animals get some grevious wounds each fall, from each other and from us. I have personally seen a whitetail going into late spring with a arrow stuck in its neck , like was in the spine, doing just fine. Never did see him again. Winter wounds seem to heal better than summer wounds on account of insect activity is less. One of my college Profs shot a deer with a bow that had a broadhead in the top of one of vertabrate with bone growing around it, when it was dressed.

Thats my final final. For the knife all I can say it likely is a Buck but what ever it is, its in a Snoopy sheath....300
 
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Yeah, I have to agree with 300Bucks final answer.

He has convinced me that the skull could be penetrated.

Funny, I also once shot a deer with a broadhead stuck in a vertabra.

Didn't seem to bother him.
 
I was checking trail cams yesterday and have a picture of a whitetail with a very large growth or abcess on his chest. Doesn't seem to affect his rut performance as my brother has a pic of the same buck about a mile away. Unfortunately that SD card is still in the field. I'll share that pic in this thread when I can retrieve that pic.
 
Back when I was a kid, a guy in our hunting club killed this 8 point during gun season. This deer was extremely skinny and poor. So when they hung him up in the slaughter house everyone stood around and watched the skinning. This deer had a festering wound just up from his nose and a nodule at the back of his head. Turns out this deer had a arrow shot thru his head. The festered wound at his nose was the broadhead picking thru and the nodule at the back of his head was the broken wooden shaft. He was blind in his left eye. Everyone was amazed this buck survived (early 70's). Just goes to show you how tough these animals are....
 
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