an interesting comparison -new vs. basics

Josh Muller

Josh Muller

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left to right,
tank buster
prototype nuclear air rescue (Without serrations, and i beleive with a slightly different edge profile then the production, the production having more straight edge, and a stronger front curve)
basic 5
satin jack tactical
basic 7
prototype fullered fighter (fuller moved higher in later editions)

these are print outs of the shots i took at blade west 03, most of them are pretty close to dead on (looking striaght at the knife) accept for the fullered fighter, wich has some slight distortion in the handle. all in all though, the lengths are very close to accurate.

interesting to see that the satin jack is the same length as the basic 7... the basic seven is huge! i didnt expect the satin jack to be that big... also interesting to see the difference between the basic 5 and the nark.... i dont like the large choil :(
 
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I agree with Seth, ditch the choils on the smaller blades. I love the choil on the bigger blades like SH-E and BM-E, but don't really see a need for it on the smaller blades like the AD. For one thing, it's too small for any of my fingers to fit and I'd rather have that xtra bit of blade. That being said, I still love my AD, but if they ever become available without the choil or a much smaller one, I would for sure sell off my current AD's in favor of a choiless one. Also, it's easy for me to sit here and throw in my 2 cents of criticism , but just want to also throw in my appreciation to the Busse crew for creating the most badass blades I own. ;) :D
 
Going to be hard to make sheaths for them paper tacticals but I will give it a shot. :D :p
 
to be perfectly honest i've never come across a busse that i thought could use some design changes, i always liked it as is. but i can see that the big indexing choils probably aren't necessary on small blades. Bob Loveless always said "if you need a finger choil the blade is too big anyway" but he never tried a BM did he ;)
 
The original SJ measures 11.5" vs. 12.25" for the Basic 7. I really like both the Basic 5 & 7; if I could only have one fixed blade knife, I think it would probably be a Basic 7 (or maybe a SH II).

Regarding large (3/4") choils, I do not see a need for them on anything smaller than a Steel Heart, and I especially dislike them on the small knives. The original SJ balances nicely on the index finger when held by the grip, but becomes very handle heavy when using the choil. The crinkle coated Basic 7 has a 1/4" choil, which as I understand the choil helps strengthen the blade, so I'm OK with the small one on the B7, but any larger is a waste of cutting edge (which is really noticeable on small knives). I would like the smaller knives to be offered with no choil, or at most a small one (1/4" or less); if someone really wants to enlarge it then they can, but if you have a large choil and do not want it, you cannot get rid of it. :grumpy:

Gene
 
the new satin jacks measurements (according to the tag) are 11 3/4", and the print out is dead on length wise. the basic 7 i have is 12 1/4"

i agree completely with your comments gk4ever. sadly im not willing to buy a smaller blade with the finger choil in it (below the steel heart (and maybe some of the 7" blades, like the fighter, depending on how they feel in the hand)).

its not just that its a waste of cutting edge, i dont like having the blade edge 2" from my hand when cutting (anything). i dont even like when its a larger version of the small choils, like on the original basic 3, or the active duty. the farther the edge is from my hand, the less control i have over it. when i want to do detail work, i grab the back of the blade, grabbing the choil is akward, and is dangerous for the index finger (ive cut myself at least 4 times doing it with greased up hands (buffalo wing sauce))

but, thats just my opinion. someday i may have enough funds to get a custom done :)

(i think i would agree with you as well on the basic 7 as my only fixed blade :D. ive been meaning to put up a thread asking peoples opininos between the differences between the basic 3,5,7 and 9, and where their use falls into place, why one is to big and the other to small for the job etc)
 
SethMurdoc said:
... the farther the edge is from my hand, the less control i have over it ...
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That's a very good point; for cutting through something that requires a lot of force, more effort is required the farther the object is from your hand.

Gene
 
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