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ScottyD

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Are you allowed to trade knives here or not? I got to wondering; I know you are not allowed to sell them here.
 
Here on the ESEE forum? I highly doubt it. You can trade and buy in the Trade/Sale section of bladeforums, but in order to SELL you need a paid membership..

It would be nice if you could sell/trade ESEE and related survival stuff on this forum though...;)
 
DH1 said:
Here on the ESEE forum? I highly doubt it. You can trade and buy in the Trade/Sale section of bladeforums, but in order to SELL you need a paid membership..

It would be nice if you could sell/trade ESEE and related survival stuff on this forum though...;)
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Doubt no more!

shotgunner11 said:
Not in this forum. All transactions have to go through the exchange forum.
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The ESEE forum follows BFs rules, so everything has to be in the proper forum when it comes to buying and selling and with the proper subscription. The only deviation from that is DPx and Pelton post up here on the HEST folder sales since they are holding all that data for the project we are involved with them on.
 
Rules for the Exchange forums - Revised again, 11/15 - No more rules on bumping, commentary, please read!!!!

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11/15 Update: Based on feedback in the feedback thread, we're trying a new format for the Exchange forums - we're sorting threads by Thread Started time instead of Last Post time. What does this mean? Threads are no longer going to be affected by bumping or replies - threads will still show up in the order that they were created.

If you prefer to sort threads by the time that the last post was made, you can, just select the option at the bottom of each forum screen.

Since we're testing this new ordering format, we're going to temporarily suspend the rules on bumping, posting replies or questions to threads, sellers replying and other similar previously applicable rules.

In addition, the "2 posts on page 1, and 4 on the first 4 pages" rule is going to be temporarily suspended. During this time of testing, you are not allowed to repost the same knife for sale for 2 weeks (14 days) from the time it was originally posted.

Thanks for your patience and support!
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SECTION 1- Membership levels
BladeForums.com is supported by members who have paid subscriptions, as such, only certain membership levels may advertise items for sale on this site.
MANUFACTURERS - Manufacturers & their designated moderators may offer items for sale in their dedicated Hosted Manufacturer Forum. Manufacturers are encouraged to contact us regarding pricing for a Hosted Manufacturer forum.
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PLATINUM or GOLD MEMBERS - Platinum or Gold members are allowed to post in any of the Individual For Sale or Trade forums.
BASIC MEMBERS - Basic members are not allowed to post items for sale. You may post items for Trade in the Wanted To Trade Forums, or post requests for items to purchase in the Wanted To Buy Forums.
REGISTERED USERS - If you have not purchased a paid subscription, you are by default a Registered User. As such, you are not allowed to sell items on the forums. You may post items for Trade in the Wanted To Trade Forums, or post requests for items to purchase in the Wanted To Buy Forums.
Make sure your correct usergroup is displayed before posting!!! - If you are a Gold, Platinum, or Knifemaker member, you need to click on the User CP and select Group Memberships. Make sure that you have selected the appropriate membership group to display on your profile. If you have "Registered User" displayed and you make a For Sale post, you will receive a "Failure to follow the rules" infraction.
With that in mind -
SECTION 2 - Rules for Selling / Trading / Offering Services:
Use common sense - Be 100% sure you are ready to go before you do anything. This means:
Sellers - Be 100% sure that you want to sell the item and are satisfied with the selling price
Provide an honest and detailed description.
Provide as many photos as possible, in the best lighting possible.
When in doubt, be pessimistic with your descriptions.
Be specific with all details of payment and delivery. Ship promptly, ship with insurance unless the buyer specifies otherwise.
Do not sell defective products, or attempt to hide defects
Buyers - Be 100% sure that you can financially afford to purchase the item before offering to do so
Ask every question you can before the deal is agreed upon.
Be prompt with your payment.
Provide an accurate address. Make sure the seller has that address. Verify your shipping preferences.
If you choose not to have your package insured to save money, it is your responsibility.
Service providers - Be sure that you can offer the service you specify in the time frame agreed upon, for the price you have offered.
DEALS ARE NOT FINAL UNTIL BOTH PARTIES HAVE AGREED TO THE TERMS.
We strongly recommend that both parties quote the agreed upon terms to each other via email / private messaging / instant messaging so both parties understand their obligations. At any stage before money has changed hands, either party can back out.

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Selling on this site is restricted to the appropriate designated forums.
Individuals may have no more than TWO ads on Page 1 of any Sale or Trade forum, and FOUR ads within the first two pages. (Temporarily suspended per testing)
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No sales for third parties. If your "friend" wants an item sold, they must create their own account and list it themselves.
Thread titles must be accurate and descriptive.
All ads should be placed in ONE appropriate forum. NO CROSS POSTING OF ADS IN MULTIPLE FORUMS.
All items offered for sale must be priced. Items being traded CAN NOT list cash value pricing; if you do so your ad will be locked or deleted.
Sellers must have valid contact information and provide it to the site staff upon request.
Sellers must have their profile set to allow contact from other members, moderators & administrators via email.
Do not get caught with a secondary or shill account. Both accounts will be banned and no refund will be issued.
Bumping threads
Keep in mind rule 3.1.2 above.
The Seller is not allowed to reply to their own ad within 72 hours of anyone's post (including their own) for any reason. The 72 hour countdown for the seller restarts with each new reply to the thread by ANYONE.
ALL CHANGES & UPDATES SHOULD BE DONE WITH THE EDIT FEATURE TO THE ORIGINAL AD, NOT BY ADDING ANOTHER RESPONSE.
If 72 hours have not passed since the last post by anyone, all questions should be addressed by email, private message, or editing previous posts ONLY.
BUMPING RULES TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED WHILE WE TEST NEW THREAD SORT FORMAT
Please indicate in the original post after the item has been sold or traded. It'd be nice if you locked the thread too.
You are not required to edit out, or leave in place, the original or final selling price. That is your prerogative.
Rules for DEALERS:
If you are a dealer, you MUST have a DEALER membership to sell on this site.
Dealers are EXEMPT from Rule 3.1.2 above
You are allowed to have any other level of membership and take part in discussions, however unless you have a DEALER membership you may not:
Mention or link to your business in any way (not applicable to Knifemakers)
Use private messaging to sell to members
Include your business name in your username
Use your signature or avatar to promote your business.
Take part in any discussions involving your business OUTSIDE the Feedback forum.
If you break any of these rules, your ad may be locked or removed entirely, without notice. If it's particularly bad, your account may be locked as well.

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First, see section 2.2 above.
Do not post "mail sent" or other similar replies to ads. Temporarily suspended per testing
Do not bump threads with "Free bump for a nice guy" or "Beautiful [item]" or other similar posts. Temporarily suspended per testing
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Do not post offers in threads. Temporarily suspended per testing
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SECTION 5 - Feedback
All feedback on sales or trades must be kept to the Feedback Forum and / or iTrader.
It is not mandatory to leave feedback.
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If any rules seem contradictory, the more stringent rules apply.
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Hell, I would need a New York lawyer to figure all that out!!!!
 
I’m not reading all that. Heck we can’t even figure out NO CHATTING in Arial 98 font, bold, italicized, underlined and in fire engine red, do you think that witchcraft makes any sense? I haven’t been this confused since I called Home Depot customer service yesterday and the nice lady on the phone read the warranty page on an air compressor verbatim. God lady, I’m paying by the minute!

In all seriousness, buying and selling ESEE blades is a sport in itself. They just don’t last long. Say new price an ESEE-3 or 4 is $95, if someone sells one lightly used for $75, the buyers are worse than Black Friday mom’s after a Tickle-Me Elmo. $75 for a good knife with the best warranty in the business, it gets cut throat out there!
 
Tony,

I dub you the master of "breaking it down." That has to be the most masterful summation ever!

God bless,
Adam
 
Well, I can understand needing rules for a forum this size, but when these first came out I tried to read them, then said "F*ck it" if I do something wrong I'm sure someone who studies these types of things will tell me I'm doing it wrong. :D
 
it's pretty simple - before posting a sale or trade thread, make sure you can receive emails.
once the thread is up, you have to wait 72 hours after the last post before you can bump it. (any last post, not just your own)
if you need to change something and it hasn't been 72 hours, just edit your original post rather than adding a post early and getting an infraction.
If you see something you want, email/PM the seller - but don't post "email/PM sent", unless their instructions say that's how they'll break a tie -- and you may still get an infraction.
 
My luck it would be 71.5 hours when I bumped it and I would get a spanking. :D
 
1066vik said:
it's pretty simple - before posting a sale or trade thread, make sure you can receive emails.
once the thread is up, you have to wait 72 hours after the last post before you can bump it. (any last post, not just your own)
if you need to change something and it hasn't been 72 hours, just edit your original post rather than adding a post early and getting an infraction.
If you see something you want, email/PM the seller - but don't post "email/PM sent", unless their instructions say that's how they'll break a tie -- and you may still get an infraction.
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Good breakdown. It really is pretty simple. I've been trying to figure out what the big deal is OTHER than people have their panties in a wad over their thread going back three pages in a day and not being able to do anything about it.
I just sold a knife on the exchange right after the rules changed and you know what.... it really wasn't harder than it was before the rules change.
 
TLR said:
Good breakdown. It really is pretty simple. I've been trying to figure out what the big deal is OTHER than people have their panties in a wad over their thread going back three pages in a day and not being able to do anything about it.
I just sold a knife on the exchange right after the rules changed and you know what.... it really wasn't harder than it was before the rules change.
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But see the new, new rules....

"11/15 Update: Based on feedback in the feedback thread, we're trying a new format for the Exchange forums - we're sorting threads by Thread Started time instead of Last Post time. What does this mean? Threads are no longer going to be affected by bumping or replies - threads will still show up in the order that they were created.

If you prefer to sort threads by the time that the last post was made, you can, just select the option at the bottom of each forum screen.

Since we're testing this new ordering format, we're going to temporarily suspend the rules on bumping, posting replies or questions to threads, sellers replying and other similar previously applicable rules.

In addition, the "2 posts on page 1, and 4 on the first 4 pages" rule is going to be temporarily suspended. During this time of testing, you are not allowed to repost the same knife for sale for 2 weeks (14 days) from the time it was originally posted.

Thanks for your patience and support!"
 
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