Annoyed at the movies!

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skunked

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Anyone else annoyed by the over use of "tactical " knives and switch blades by killers in the movies? Seems like they are going to make the public just as afraid of knives as they are of guns! People no longer smoke in movies but it's okay to slice someone up! (or shot them set them on fire run over them etc)
 
Is that not exacly what you go to the movies for ???? There not real and shouldent be taken as a reflection on society,I think they phased out smoking because it will make you die sooner, but having a knife in your pocket wont ;) :D !!!
 
Yes that I what I go to the movies for and they ARE a reflection of society. I used smoking as an example, it's PC to be anti smoking but okay to slice some body up because knives are "evil". Just a rant ya know, maybe they should use blenders or something!
 
I think movies are just escapism, you will alwys get nutters that take that *&£t for real, but WE ARE more sensible than that im sure, I hear the point that someone who is not a knifeist my take the wrong idea away with them, but people have been getting *&%ked up by knives and swords in movies for ages, has there been any change ?? :confused: :D

p.s. Brane Dead, gret gore movie !!!!!
 
I am with Haze, escapizm is what it is all about. You can't fly like superman or run up walls like Neo, but it is nice to dream.
 
madhaha said:
I think what you should ask is "Why aren't there films showing normal knife use?"
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Thats a good question but someone cleaning there nails, sharpening a stick or opening a box, dosant hold the same grip factor as a bad guy being chopped in half !!
there is a couple tho, "cliff hangers" got some normal knife use, "Fear and lothing in las vegas" has some sort of normal knife use and so does "Blow" to mention a fiew :) :D ;)
 
I want one of them knives whut squirts fake blood!

Good defense knife. Walk up to the bad dude and "slice" your arm without blinking.

Makes em run off.

:D
 
What bugs me is when they use the WRONG knife for the job. When we are watching a movie and they go to cut somebody and they pull out a Hibben or a Frost and it wouldnt really do the job. Come on Hollywood! Invest in some GOOD knives!! :p
 
I'm guessing they go with switchblades and such for the bad guys, because there isn't much scary about a vilian whipping out a Buck 112 or Victorinox Spartan.
 
Unfortunately, McGyver didn't survive long-term but he would be one to use a common pocket knife and duct tape to save the pretty ladies and escape certain death while not killing anyone in the process.

I enjoyed it but I don't suppose the viewership numbers were high enough.

So, they went to more Terminator type movies with lots of violence and all full-auto firearms. It's amazing how they can shoot so many bullets and still miss the good guy.
 
I think that some of you missed the point that skunked brought up, and it is a very good one.

Yes, we know that movies are not real and yes, we go to them to escape our humdrum reality. But there is a core of truth in the movies, something that ties them to us, otherwise we wouldn't go because they would have no meaning to us.

The analogy that skunked made is also very good. Smoking is not PC, so it is not shown in the movies as much - that is the fantasy. Yet people do it every day; that is the reality. In much the same way, knives are only shown in the hands of experts, who have no problem dispatching their foes in a spectacular manner. This is far from reality, but the core truth is that knives are capable of taking life. Once this seed is planted in the minds of sheeple, who knows what might happen?

You may laugh, you may think skunked and I are paranoid, but the thing that got switchblades banned was - you guessed it - the movies. We here all know that the switchblade ban has no meaning - how many of you can whip out a waved Emerson faster than someone can pull a switchblade? But back in the 50's, it was a big thing. Only criminals carried switchblades and we knew this because the movies of the day said so. Public opinion, fueled by what was shown on the big screen, pushed the switchblade ban through.

Could the same thing happen today? Aren't we more sophisticated? Yes and yes. What we have to remember is that knives haven't really changed since the 50's, heck they haven't really changed in the last 10,000 years. So any "reasoning" that could apply to a knife ban back then, can easily be applied today.
 
Vote for George W. Bush.

Be assured that knives will not meet the 'Global Test' of political Correctness.
 
Thirteenth Star said:
It is the objective of Hollywood to undermine all sensible principles, and convince Joe Sixpack and Sally Soccermom that all conventions and sensibilities of our society are ultimately misguided. Much of this was begun in The Frankfurt School, with the intent of destroying entire cultures by subterfuge. More here:

http://www.newtotalitarians.com/FrankfurtSchool.html
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Thanks for the link to an interesting read, Thirteenth Star. I got a kick out of it, but I must say I disagree with the author.

First off, the author, Atkinson, doesn't clearly define who the "Cultural Marxist" enemy is. Of course, that makes sense, because in his paranoid world view the enemy is all around us, unwitting drones carrying out the wishes of their communist puppet-masters. In this overly simplistic fashion, he in effect lumps together all socialists and non-traditionalists (i.e. anyone who would have an objection to Judeo-Christian patriarchal dominance [*JCPD for short from here on]) under the label of "Commie". This helps because now he can include any controversial (tradition-bucking) statement, reasonable or not, by any Communist from the past 70 years to be a sign that there is a massive conspiracy to unseat JCPD and thus our American freedoms. Note that Atkinson doesn't indicate that "capitalism" is at threat; he equates it with freedom.

From what I understand, the Frankfurt School was actually opposed to conventional (what they call)-materialistic Marxism. Here's how some of the members support socialism yet distinguish their theory from whatever flavor was implemented in Russia.

Jürgen Habermas is opposed to a capitalist technological society because it "dominates" a subject by the systemic removal of the subject's ability to be an autonomous agent. Undistorted communication, according to him, would be a way to bring reason back to a society. Hardly an approach that secretive Commies would espouse.

Erich Fromm would most definitely have been opposed to the totalitarian state which the author predicts will be precipitated by "Cultural Marxism". The Wikipedia article on Fromm's book, "Escape from Freedom", calls it a "classic description of how a civilized Western democracy will sacrifice freedom for security." Though I view most of this guy's stuff as wacky yet harmless psychobabble, I believe that his support for personal autonomy and decision-making based in rational thought is something most of us libertarian knifenuts would support, however misguided his socialist political leanings may be. Again, this guy hardly sounds like an evil Commie out to take over the world.

I wish Atkinson had connected the logical dots between the current state (of political correctness) to his vision of matriarchal societies to what he describes as "complete anarchy". I would have enjoyed reading the reasoning behind this progression, besides his paranoid fear of the neo-libber qua overlord.

So how much of the article was based on a black-white McCarthyist worldview? Does the communist mind control fearmongering have any meaning in a post-Cold War world? This is a world where "mass psychology" is no longer thought of as a revolutionary mind control science, but has been emasculated (or rather, deflated) and made into a tool for counselling individuals.

As a knifenut, I'm worried about people giving up their rights to become feel-good sheeple. But I don't see it becoming a trend to the extent that all Americans will someday willingly be slaves to communist ideology. Sheeple notwithstanding, there's enough freedom-loving individuals in our country to prevent a silent communist revolution (real or not) without having to resort to McCarthyist scare tactics.

This isn't all that relevant, but here's a bit in Atkinson's article that I found kinda funny: "...'relativism' has largely supplanted the pursuit of truth as a goal in historical study."

Golly gee, we can't lose: we have truth on our side!
 
I haven't had time to read the academic piece but here is my, confessedly simple take on the issue:

How many drive by shuriken deaths do you think occured in the UK before it became a prohibited weapon? Kusari gama or kyoketsu shoge attacks perhaps? Was there a sudden wave of blowgun assaults (discounting pea shooters which are now technically completely illegal)?

Would it be reasonable to guess that movies had a slight influence on the passing of laws banning the contruction, import. sale. purchase, giving etc. of these weapons even on private property as part of a collection? Or did I miss the Great Ninja Mafia of '73?

When people FLINCH at the sight of a blunt P38 can opener (I have one on my key chain, can I be arrested for having a fixed blade? O_o), I can't help but feel something is amiss. Every household has knives in the kitchen and garden shears. No-one fears a man with scissors despite blades clearly exceeding 3 inches and serrated. What makes pocket knives, however humble, such demonic weapons in the age of automatic firearms?
 
I mostly get annoyed at the movies by cell phones, or loud people.

Sometimes because the movies suck.

Or if the movie is pretty good, but the ending is real bad. Like in Collateral.

Knives in movies? nah. Doesn't do it for me. ;)
 
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