Another ethnic beauty - been lookin awhile for one

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Woo Hoo! had to share pics....

Been waitin' almost a year for one of these to come along in good condition at a decent price.

listed as "ANIMAL HEAD POMMEL SMALL SWORD OR BURMESE DAHR", (from an arms dealer who should have known what it really was.(& who should be able to spell 'dha'))

description: DECORATIVE SWORD WITH 340MM BLADE. ONE PIECE WITH BRASS DECORATION. WOODEN SCABBARD WITH SOME CARVING.

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it is, of course, a north african flyssa. will take & add in a few better pics when it arrives.
 
kronckew said:
it is, of course, a north african flyssa.

Of course! :foot: :confused:


:p
Seriously, though, that looks like a very nice machete/sword/flyssa/thing. I never realized that you could shark out nice things like that on ebay until I started frequenting this forum.

I think we should consider ourselves lucky that we live in a time where it is possible to acquire so many different ethnic blades without even leaving the comfort of our homes. Fifteen years ago, you wouldn't have been able to get these items without an airplane ticket! (or the price of one, at least)
 
Kazeryu said:
I never realized that you could shark out nice things like that on ebay until I started frequenting this forum.

ebay is just a gentle practice run compared to the sharks around here circlin' for yangdu's offerings. :D

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No offense,but I always thought that most dah's;patangs;and what not were always a bit outlandish looking! :D

And to me that looks like a khyber.
 
Flyssas are cool. Remind me of pointy Yataghans. Actually, they are a lot like the Black Sea yataghans:)

That one there that you bought looks to be nice quality, much better than some that I've seen.
 
Krull said:
No offense,but I always thought that most dah's;patangs;and what not were always a bit outlandish looking! :D

And to me that looks like a khyber.

yataghans, flyssa, sumatran kalisan, kukhri -
they all are related of course, being recurved edge weapons and representing descendants of alexander's universally distributed kopis.

the flyssa is the african version of the yataghan, with a straight spine. with a lot of indo-persian and south east asian weapons, the lines between types blur & make the exact id difficult. one mans parang is another mans golok. sub-saharan african weapons are a bewildering mass of wierd shapes & not in my remit.

the flyssa however almost always has pretty much the same distinctively angular animal shaped & decorated brass covered wooden grip, the same blade shape, and similar brass or bronze blade decorations, and also the same style carved wood scabbard with the distinctive cutout for the baldric.

if you do a google image search on flyssa, you'll see what i mean. differences in length from daggers to long sword versions but overall look almost exactly the same. some wax lyrical about the tribal variants without brass on the grip, but the wood looks exactly the same shape.

khybers are again almost exactly alike, varying in materials or length, rounded birds head shaped grips of varying materials, a straight t-section blade tapering almost straight from the widest point at the grip down to a sharp point. all the ones i've seen have a leather covered wood scabbard where the grip is mostly hidden in it, and is designed to be shoved into a sash. all look like a big french chef's knife.

HI's Udda sword is very like a khyber & i hope to get one eventually when the sharks here finish their feeding frenzies every time one comes out.

the burmese dha, thai dha/darb, viet dha, and its variations is more like the japanese katana, being in general a curved drawcut designed blade with a long handle that can be used two handed or single handed, also come in short & long versions, with different point (or no point) styles. i've got 4, a burmese, a naga (rounded 'point'), and a matched pair of thai darb, not up to my katana's but honest killers. the burmese dha was taken off a dead japanese officer by a chindit in ww2 (maybe with the chindit's kukhri making him an ex-person?) - i got it from his estate...... the japanese valued it enough to carry in place of a katana or one of the mass produced ww2 'swords'.

for a good pictoral reference on ethnic bank-account drainers see: Linky
 
That is one sweet looking weapon. You must tell us how she balances. I love the handle too.:thumbup:
 
aproy1101 said:
That is one sweet looking weapon. You must tell us how she balances. I love the handle too.:thumbup:

It arrived this morning! balance point is about 4 in. in front of the handle. if anything, condition is better than it appeared in the ebay photos, mine folow (suspension webbing is my addition)

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no rust, no defects, real nice patina on all the brasswork, steel has a nice color as well, some dark areas & one very small area that may be pitted, which can be seen in the bottom photo just ahead of the grip area. the scabbard is two loose pieces of wood, held together only by the brass bands... i love it! feels like twenty inches of death.

blade is 3/8 in thick at the grip, distally tapering to nothing at the point, 1 in. wide at it's widest by the grip which is about 4 1/2 in. long
 
Beautiful. Kind of a "greyhound" of khyber bowies- on the lean side. :foot:

Any idea how old it is? or where in North Africa- Morocco?



Ad Astra
 
Ad Astra said:
Beautiful. Kind of a "greyhound" of khyber bowies- on the lean side. :foot:

Any idea how old it is? or where in North Africa- Morocco?



Ad Astra

it's the traditional weapon of the kaybyles of morrocco, this one might be late 19th/early 20th c. but could be newer. the patina looks really old. i'm not an expert in these areas tho, i'm more interested in form and function than age, but can apreciate the history that comes with these ethnic lovelies. this one stirs visions of beau geste and la legion etrangere.

here's a link to it's bigger brother, a 38.5 in., version that looks like it was made by the same crew....Linky

wish i could afford one of them.
 
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