Another Help Me Decide Thread - Superleaf, Gayle Bradley, Vallotton

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Just like the title says. Ive got the urge to buy another syderco (again) and I cant decide between the Superleaf, Gayle Bradley, or Vallotton Sub-Hilt. I might end up buying them all eventually but Id feel guilty if I bought them all at once when there are other things I should be spending my money on atm. Gotta treat yourself every once in a while to make life worth living though, right? :)

I'm looking for a sturdy, general use, type knife to carry on weekends - about 75% city and 25% farm. I wont be beating on the knife or using it as a pry bar but I do like solid feeling knives. 95% of what I do could be accomplished just as well with a slipjoint but I like the feel of solid knives.

I dont care too much about weight or size other than stipulating that the handle size must be big enough to fit my fairly large hands (about 4.25" across at knuckles). Larger handle size was one thing that made me think twice about the superleaf. I wasnt sure if my hand would fit comfortably without using the choil and I dont have a local b&m to try holding it first.

I really like the blade profile of the Vallotton but it looks like it would too flashy to carry even on the weekend with jeans - not worried about carry laws or workplace reaction since this is legal and would be a weekend knife, but I still dont want people thinking Im trying to act like a tough guy because Im carrying a big, conspicuous, knife that sticks way out of my pocket. Not sure if Im explaining myself here - I dont care if people notice Im carrying a knife but Id feel like a poser if it looked like I was trying to get people to notice.

I like the look of the Superleaf as well. Pluses would be blade shape and thickness, the compression lock which Id like to try (dont have a para), and the wire clip (love them). Potential concerns are handle size as mentioned above, and the vg10 steel. I really like vg10 but since this is just a "I feel the urge to buy another knife" knife, I wouldnt mind trying something different/more exotic because I already have several in vg10.

The Gayle Bradley is also a really nice looking knife. Its probably my favourite of the 3 based on looks alone but looks are secondary to function when deciding on a knife for me. Besides the overall look of the knife, a plus would be the cpm-m4 steel which people say great things about and I havent tried. My main potential concern is the way pictures make it look like the handle flows right into the blade. I doubt if I'll ever stab anything but I do sometimes want to push a knife through something thick/resilient in order to start a cut and I might worry a bit if the Gayle Bradley ends up being as easy to transition from handle to blade as it looks.

Thanks for reading my long post and for whatever insights/experiences you can offer.
 
The GB suits your request the best. Great knife! Other things to think about though.. the Superleaf and Vallotton will probably go discontinued sooner than the GB.. so depends on what you want to snag first or how soon you plan to give them all a run. My guess would the the Vallotton will go discontinued before the Superleaf though. I wish the Superleaf didn't have that ugly point on the handle when the blade is closed.. it just bugs me and looks unfinished.
 
Gayle Bradley would be my choice. In my opinion, the Vallotton is also a great knife, but the Spyderhole is enormous and throws the balance/lines way off kilter for me. The little tab on the lock gets in the way when gripping it for hard cutting. the Superleaf is awesome in every way too. Whatever you choose will be good though, you have narrowed it down nicely. :thumbup:
 
All round the Superleaf IMO has the most versatile and comfortable grip. It is a big knife though. This is everything I wanted the Manix 2 to be.
The GB is excellent, very stout and a highly versatile blade shape with a stella grind. I've never had any issues with the reatively shallow choil. It's my rough use knife and I've never had the need to stab things with it.
The Vallotten looks well built with some nice craftsmanship, but the overall design doesn't really do much for me + I have a strong dislike for S30V.

just my 2cents

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Gayle Bradley would be my choice.
+1 May not be the best Spyderco, but its sure near the top of the list.

In my opinion, the Vallotton is also a great knife, but the Spyderhole is enormous and throws the balance/lines way off kilter for me.

Agree.
Don't notice it affecting the balance a lot, but it sure doesn't fit the lines of the knife. But as Butch said, the hole had to go somewhere. :D
Fortunately, its such an oustanding spydie otherewise, you can sort of overlook that.

Construction and F&F on both are outstanding.
 
Look I know this is the Spydie forum and I truly love my Spydies - Sal and team make folders that no one else is for us all and I truly appreciate that...

...however have you considered at ZT0200?

For a heavy duty folder at a reasonable cost with a buttery smooth opening it has to be worth a look.

I'll be honest here and say that I carry my Para 2 far, far more because it is less of an issue to EDC but if you're thinking big, serious folder it'd be worth a look.

Apologies in advance to all those that I have offended in posting this...

Ben
 
Look I know this is the Spydie forum and I truly love my Spydies - Sal and team make folders that no one else is for us all and I truly appreciate that...

...however have you considered at ZT0200?

For a heavy duty folder at a reasonable cost with a buttery smooth opening it has to be worth a look.

I'll be honest here and say that I carry my Para 2 far, far more because it is less of an issue to EDC but if you're thinking big, serious folder it'd be worth a look.

Apologies in advance to all those that I have offended in posting this...

Ben

I have looked at zero tolerance but I dont really care for the look of them. Most of them look out of proportion to me - too tall for the length or something. Im also not fond of recurves. I may get a 550 if they ever come out but I dont really care for the current zt models. Thanks for the input though. Its always good to keep your options open and Im not dead set on spyderco. I did look at other manufactures (emerson, kershaw, cold steel) before I narrowed it down to the 3 knives I mentioned but spyderco seems to have more models Im interested in than any other manufacturer.
 
+1 May not be the best Spyderco, but its sure near the top of the list.

Agree.
Don't notice it affecting the balance a lot, but it sure doesn't fit the lines of the knife. But as Butch said, the hole had to go somewhere. :D
Fortunately, its such an oustanding spydie otherewise, you can sort of overlook that.

Construction and F&F on both are outstanding.
It was a tough choice, but after 2 days of looking at it, I just couldn't keep it. If the Spyderhole would have been done like the on the older Centofante 1 and 2 knives, it would have been a keeper.

I have looked at zero tolerance but I dont really care for the look of them. Most of them look out of proportion to me - too tall for the length or something. Im also not fond of recurves. I may get a 550 if they ever come out but I dont really care for the current zt models. Thanks for the input though. Its always good to keep your options open and Im not dead set on spyderco. I did look at other manufactures (emerson, kershaw, cold steel) before
I narrowed it down to the 3 knives I mentioned but spyderco seems to have more models Im interested in than any other manufacturer.
ZT is a different kind of knife. It is a heavy duty folder, and is just as good. Looks can be deceiving, and it's really hard to judge anything just on looks alone. Spyderco is an example of this more than any other company. People have accused Spyderco and Sal of designing knives in the dark. This is because some of the models are ugly to a lot of people. The reality is, the knives have some of the best ergonomics, blade steel, and research/development behind them. It's not some a company just threw it together one day on a whim. It can take a years for a knife to make it into production, even a decade. Just something to think about, take it from a steel junkie/knife collector/knife user.
 
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No worries Justa,

Just wanted to make sure you'd considered it. I actually hand ground the recurve (almost) out of my 0350...

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...so clearly we are reasonably agreed about the limitations on recurves.

For what its worth, I think you're on the right track with Spydies!

Cheers,

Ben
 
From what you described, I would suggest the GB. You'll absolutely love it.
 
The GB seems to be one of the most popular Spydies at the moment. I had one, and it was a fantastic knife. But something just didn't click.

The Valloton has me the most interested at the moment, but I haven't ever handled one. :mad: Stout like the GB, but with a contoured handle and slight guard, plus heavy duty tip.
 
I've got all three.

They're all quite nice, but certainly the Superleaf is the most pedestrian / utility-grade knife of the group.

The Gayle Bradley is a gem and a great value. It is crazy-smooth opening. THWACK! It's robust and elegant at the same time. I think the GB is near the top of the "must have" Spydie list.

The Valloton is exotic. I just love it. It's not "sheeple-friendly." It's a big knife and definitely makes a statement.

Which one should you get??? Heck, I don't know... only you know. You can't go wrong with any of them. Or you could just get all three! :)
 
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I would have to agree with you. I also have all 3 and the Superleaf would be my first choice for EDC. I like the Valloton a lot but it just doesn't sit in the pocket well compared to the Superleaf. I also agree that everyone should own all three.
 
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I would put it between GB and superleaf.....If the superleaf had the M4, then...I think I peed a bit. jk. Out of your choices, I pick gayl bradley cause of the better steel, and it can take a nice patina , even though, aesthetically, I think the superleaf is a lot sweeter
 
Even though the GB has a rep for being a great user, I still prefer the superleaf asthetically.
 
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The gayle bradley is the finest knife I have ever owned. cant speak for the others. But you wont be dissapointed with the GB
 
I purchased a Vallotton and it wasn't anything like i thought it would be, it is a very beefy folder with huge liners. Its also super heavy and kinda thick in the hand, but mine is smooth as silk opening. If you are in the market for a big beefy overbuilt folder the Vallotton is good for you.
 
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