Another knifemakers question, NO RACISM !!

bigbore.45

bigbore.45

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Does anyone know of any overweight knfemakers either contemporaries or from the past. There don't seem to be any. If there are or were I'd like to know more about them, their place historically in this craft, and their products. Any leads would be appreciated.
 
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Good question I guess, Gravitationally Challenged BladeSmiths, can't be too many out there. Maybe someone will take up the cause and start a coffee table book about them? All their little secrets and such, full of pics of course, knives and makers as well!

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By the way, that isn't fat! It is an organic tool rest. Without oen you can't grind all day.
 
Fat knifemakers?????
We are grasping,are we not????
GEEEEEESE LOUISE!!!!!!
 
Bigbore seems to attempting to take a jab at the gentleman who was asking about Black knife makers. Apparently he thinks it's racist to ask such questions. All I have to say is, we need to stop being so damn sensitive. If a collector is curious about the proliferation of Black knife makers, who cares? If you have some leads, then by all means share. If not... well, live and let live.

SilentPriest (or whoever it was) is apparently interested in a certain cultural/racial involvement in the field. I'm half Polish (and half mut), but I have no interest in seeking out Polish knife makers. Why? Because preserving or investigating my cultural heritage means nothing to me. However, for others this is not the case.

The real issue is why are we so intolerant of African American cultural pride? Obviously some people take offense to it. Anyone who thinks that this is racist obviously has no understanding of that mentality. Personally, I don't really get it either. But I certainly don't take offense.

I have a Scottish friend who is into collecting Scottish-made daggers. Would anyone have a problem with a post about that? Racist? Makes me wonder who the real racist in this situation is.
 
The real issue is why are we so intolerant of African
American cultural pride?
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The issue is not one of intolerance for "African American Cultural Pride". It may very well be an issue of intolerance of any further proliferation of racial double standards. Our children in public schools are forced to observe Black "History" Month, but any mention of a White History Month is met with outright derision and scorn. Have you ever heard of the White Congressional Caucus? Me neither, as any such thing would be instantly labeled as "racist", while the Black Congressional Caucus is treated with solemn deferrence. Ditto the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. Actually, white people are forced to endure the promotion of African American cultural pride almost on a daily basis, while simultaneously having any expression of their own racial pride oppressed and condemned as "racist".
If you noticed, the earlier poster you referred to asked a deliberately selective, racially based question, then had the hypocrisy to turn around and preach about being "inclusive". He should have considered how "inclusive" his racial inquiry was.

JK
 
The issue is not one of intolerance for "African American Cultural Pride". It may very well be an issue of intolerance of any further proliferation of racial double standards.
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I think that any issues of attempts at Black equality are reactions to a very real and much older double standard. Don't get me wrong, I have issues with "affirmative action" movements that essentially hurt others by putting them at a disadvantage (by in essence making that person the "bad guy" because of the color of his skin).

That whole topic doesn't belong here I suppose. The original post was an inquiry about Black knife makers, and the poor guy was attacked like he was some sort of extremist monster. The issue was aggravated when he said that the knife making industry was dominated by whites. Reactions were to the effect of "the industry isn't dominating nobody!"- a real twisting of his intentions. There are way more white makers than black in the field. That's the reason he was trying to find them. He wasn't preaching about being inclusive. This is just another example of wanting to see problems where there aren't any.
 
Originally posted by Kumdo
Bigbore seems to attempting to take a jab at the gentleman who was asking about Black knife makers. Apparently he thinks it's racist to ask such questions ......................
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Hi all,
first, Kumdo: you are very right with everything exept my intentions , i read the threads from SilentPriest
and was shocked bout the harsh responses he got.

second: i love some sarcasm so i copyed his post and replaced the "oh so bad words" with >>overweight<<,
first thing to come into my mind every day i walk near a mirror or a scales.

Look at the answers, everything is ok and nice and on topic until
the "oh so bad words" got in - WHY ???????????

i dont want to start a new (old) discussion here,
just show to some that it was just a question,

kumdo says he`s half polish, my friends always say i`m half crazy
do you know a crazy+polish knifemaker?


PLEASE dont forget most of us are here to have fun and learn about knives,
dont forget your humor :)
 
Duly noted, BigBore! Sorry about the misunderstanding. I like to think I have good sense of humor, although my brain don't work so good sometimes.
 
Jedi Knife, this is way off the topic but since you mentioned it i will respond since I am a history professor by trade. You do not see "White History Month" for the same reason you do not see threads for white knife makers: if you open any standard college or high school U.S. history book or most any knife publication, you will see an overwhelming majority of white faces. When a typical U.S. or western civ book mentions 80%+ white figures, there is no need to specially identify the subject matter as white. Conversely, in areas where African Americans have dominated such as jazz, there have been very scholarly studies focusing white musicians that no one has branded racist.
 
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