Another newbie with questions

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bbrown

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At a local gun show in Chantilly, Virginia, a few weeks ago I picked up a well-used kukri (my first), about which I'd like to get some information, such as (1) model, (2) commercial, tourist, military, or ..., (3) maker, (4) approximate time frame of manufacture, etc. From my admittedly sketchy research it appears to be an Indian-made Mk 3, but I can't seem to find much information beyond that.

Below are some pictures of the piece, stored only temporarily in my personal web space. More premanent (but smaller) copies can be found at

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bbrown20904/album?.dir=/dc2bre2&.src=ph&.tok=phCujVFBXGmbXCsO

(the address may have wrapped).

Anyway, here are the pictures:

Left side view with scabbard:

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Left side view with knives:

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Right side view with knives:

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Left side of handle:

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Right side of handle:

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Right side view of scabbard:

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Top view of scabbard:

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Right side view with tape measure:

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Right ricasso with inscription / maker mark:

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So, can any kind folks provide information about this one?

Thanks,

Bryan
 
Welcome to the cantina, and please don't take this badly because my first was identical. That is a khukrappie. Its probably made from mild steel with no hardening whatsoever. I used mine to dig in the dirt for a while, then after getting an HI evenutally just threw it away to make room for real khuks. At lease it doesn't have a lion head pommel though!! Keep it till you get your first HI so that you can compare. At least you've found this place and real khuks. Khuks rock.
 
Welcome to the forum. You might find some reading of interest here or on the HI web page.


munk
 
Bryan:

If you find it is not hardened, you can probably harden it yourself. There will be information here if you search for it.

Welcome to the word of kukris. Bet you'll buy more soon. Look on this site because it has deals of the day at reduced prices and the HI kuks are quality.
 
Despite khukuri buffs generally low opinion of the CIK (Cheap Indian Khukuri), if properly sharpened and maintained they make perfectly serviceable tools for yard work, light trail clearing, et cetera. Use the heck out of it, learn from it, make the mistakes that are invariably part of the learning process with it. It's a good "training khuk", and when you get yourself a high quality khukuri like an HI, you'll not only have a better appreciation of it, you'll already have an idea of how to use and maintain it. Taken from that perspective, you haven't wasted your money at all. And when you get a nice khuk, and the CIK falls into disuse, give it to a friend so they can learn with it, then tell 'em where they can get a good one. :D

Sarge
 
Bryan?

Please read the safety thread.

That knife will work wonderfully for splitting wood chunks: place it on the top of the end of the wood chunk. Hold it firmly in one hand. Smack the sucker with another piece of wood on the spine. Continue as needed.

I had one for about two years for campfires. It now does the same duty somewhere in Northern Illinois.

Welcome.
 
Many thanks for all the information. I didn't pay much for the "tourist" set, so I'll add it to my tool box [smile]. I sure won't feel dubious about polishing the blotches, freckles, etc., off if the time comes.

I mostly collect bayonets, and what I really want is a military model, pre-1953 or so (no later than the Korean war). Guess I'll start looking for such things here after getting better informed.

By the way, I'll remove the large pictures above but leave the link to the Yahoo photo album for others to refer to.

Bryan
 
b.brown;

I asked a antiques dealer once how I could avoid losing so much money buying furniture. He said, 'spend money is the only way.'

He said he'd done the same. There isn't a quick and easy way to 'know' what you are looking for, or if what you are looking at is what you think it is.

munk
 
bbrown said:
Many thanks for all the information. I didn't pay much for the "tourist" set, so I'll add it to my tool box [smile]. I sure won't feel dubious about polishing the blotches, freckles, etc., off if the time comes.

I mostly collect bayonets, and what I really want is a military model, pre-1953 or so (no later than the Korean war). Guess I'll start looking for such things here after getting better informed.

By the way, I'll remove the large pictures above but leave the link to the Yahoo photo album for others to refer to.

Bryan
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Bayonets? You have spoken a majic word for the many mil-surp collectors on the forum. Which one? M-1 carbine, Garand, 03, 1917? Or the Enfields, Mosins, Mausers............

If you go to the Cantina and start a bayonet thread you are going to get a lot of interest. Hope to see you there.
 
I just have 4 bayonets to date, but one really good one, an AFH marked (American Fork & Hoe) M1 (for my M1 :D) w/ 10" blade, with the M7 green fiber scabbard; it is in perfect shape. The lady at Springfield Armory who pulled it for me told me it had been there for years, and was from the late 40's anyway, and had not been issued. Took me ages to get all the cosmoline off it. The M1 was made from 1943-45.

Bryan, welcome to the Cantina. And Sarge is right, and I frankly wish I had had a knife like that to learn from when I was starting. It is much scarier learning to sharpen when you are holding a new shiny blade in your hand than when you have something a bit more forgiving shall we say.

I would sharpen it up and put it to good use. I would also like to see how it would hold up to batoning as Kis suggested. You might be surprised as to how much use you could get out of it.

Norm
 
bbrown said:
I mostly collect bayonets, and what I really want is a military model, pre-1953 or so (no later than the Korean war). Guess I'll start looking for such things here after getting better informed.
Bryan
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For antique khukris take a look here.
 
Steve Poll said:
Bayonets? You have spoken a majic word for the many mil-surp collectors on the forum. Which one? M-1 carbine, Garand, 03, 1917? Or the Enfields, Mosins, Mausers............
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I have, ahem, quite a few bayonets, from British and Swiss sockets to, well, ones from up until the end of the Korean War. The only other knives I have are several German WWI boot knives. Figured it was time to get a period Kukri, to balance the motley crew.

For US rifles I have a couple of bayonets for the M1 Carbine, M1 Garand, 1903 Springfield and 1873 Trapdoor.

Most of my bayonets are for foreign rifles, however. Among the more unusual are probably the British P1907 with original hooked quillon, Russian M1940 Tokarev, a couple of Swiss bicycle bayonets, several German M1871s (with unit marks) and a V-notched German M1898/05 used by the Reichswehr.

Then there are the miscellaneous Japanese, Italian, Portuguese, Danish, etc.

Should this go over to the Cantina?

Bryan
 
Bryan, that sounds like a terrific collection. I've put off getting one for my Swiss K-31 because they run about 90-100.00, but I'll get one eventually. I'm trying to get a bayonet for each mil-surp rifle I have.
 
I had to list mine for customs. That 1908 with the hooked quillon is getting pretty rare and very expensive. I have one too.

BOX # 3 PACKED BY PICKFORDS
BAYONETS

LEE ENFIELD # 2 MK 2
USA M5
USA M4
UK # 7
SWEDEN MODEL 1896
RUSSIA AK47 (MINT)
RUSSIA AKM (MINT)
UK L1A3
GERMANY ERSATZ COMBINATION
UK SA80 BAYONET (MINT)
ISRAEL HAKIM
UK #2 MK2 X 2
USA M1 1943
UK 1888 MK1
UK 1888 MK1 2ND TYPE X 4
UK PATTERN 1903
GERMAN MODEL 1884/98 3R
GERMAN MODEL 1884/98
GERMAN MODEL 1871/84
GERMAN SHORT MODEL 1898 PARADE
GERMAN MODEL 1914
CASE & CO COMMANDO STILETTO
SUDANESE BELT KNIFE
AFRICAN SPEARHEAD
TRIBAL AFRICAN KNIFE
SUSAT OPTICAL SIGHT
27 X 145 INERT SHELLS X 2
INERT 30MM SPITFIRE CANON
INERT 30MM TANK CANON
GERMAN MODEL 1914 SAW BACK
PORTUGUESE MODEL 890 DRESS
SWISS SCHMIT RUBIN 1918
BRITISH MILLS 32 INERT
BRAZILIAN JUNGLE MACHETE
ASSORTED MUSKET BALLS
AMERICAN SPENT CARTRIDGE CASES
AMERICAN CIVIL WAR POWDER FLASK
SPANISH STILETTO 1876
ENGLISH BONE HANDLED HUNTING KNIFE
UK 1943 LEE ENFIELD SHORT
NEPALESE KHUKRI x 3
WEBLEY PISTOL BAYONET
INDIAN KATAR


BOX # 4 PACKED BY PICKFORDS


FRANCE 1892
FRANCE CHASSEPOT
FRANCE 1886 LEBEL
FRANCE 1886 BRASS HILT
FRANCE 1886 WHITE METAL HILT
FRANCE 1874 EPEE
FRANCE 1874 EPEE NO SCABBARD
ARGENTINIAN HANGER FROM FALKLANDS
MEXICAN ISSUE CHASSEPOT
AUSTRIAN 1720 SOCKET BAYONET
AMERICAN MARINES BRASS HILT
ENGLISH PATTERN 1907 MK 1 & SCABBARD
ENGLISH PATTERN 1907
ENGLISH PATTERN 1895 SOCKET
ENGLISH PATTERN # 9 WITH PICK MATTOCK HANDLE
ENGLISH PATTERN 1887 MK 1
ENGLISH PTTERN 1847 BRUNSWICK
ENGLISH BAKER SWORD
ENGLISH PATTERN 1871 ELCHO
INERT 40MM BOFORS PRACTICE SHELL 1943
BOFORS SHELL BASE 1944
SHELL (EMPTY CASE) 1965
3" NAVAL SHELL CASE FROM DIVE ON WRECK


BOX # 5 PACKED BY PICKFORDS

ENGLISH RAMC LANCASTER
ENGLISH DCLI HANGER
ENGLISH PATTERN 1859 NAVAL CUTLAS
ENGLISH PATTERN 1879 ARTILLERY SWORD
GERMAN MODEL 1898/05 MARINE HANGER
GERMAN 12TH REGIMENT ARTILLERY BRASS HANGER
GERMAN MODEL 1898 NCO
GERMAN MODEL 1898/05 SAW BACK 2ND PATTERN
GERMAN MODEL 1898/05
SWISS MODEL 1914 SCHMIDT-RUBIN ENGINEERS
GERMAN MODEL 1898/05 NCO POLISHED SCABBARD
GERMAN BAVARIAN MODEL 1914
GERMAN 1924 MAUSER UNISSUED
USA MODEL 1917 ENFIELD
JAPANESE ARISAKA X2 WITH WALL PLAQUE BURMA 1944
SUMATRAN BIRDS HEAD KRIS
JAVANESE KRIS
ROYAL WARWICKSHIRE REGIMENT OFFICERS SWAGGER STICK
POLICE OFFICERS TRUNCHEON


BOX # 6 PACKED BY PICKFORDS
SWORDS
BRITISH 1822 PATTERN ARTILLERY OFFICERS DRESS X 2
BRITISH 1895 PATTERN ARTILLERY OFFICERS PRESENTATION
BRITISH 1895 PATTERN ARTILLERY OFFICERS
BRITISH 1822 PATTERN INFANTRY OFFICERS
BRITISH 1829 PATTERN SPEARPOINT PIPEBACK LIGHT CAVALRY TROOPERS
BRITISH 1803 PATTERN NAVAL OFFICERS DRESS
FRENCH NAVAL OFFICERS DRESS
BRITISH POLICE OFFICERS SWORD
SUDANESE KASKARA
GERMAN 1851 CAVALRY HANGER
FRANZ JOSEPH 1ST, OFFICERS SWORD BLUED BLADE
 
I'd love to see your livingroom on the day you decided to clean a few of your firearms.

That list really puts my 4 Garands, 3 Mauser 96's, 2 german mausers, 3 or 4 SKS's, and the two AK's into perspective. And I don't even own most of them anymore!

Congratulations on a swell hobby and all that fun.




munk
 
I have one bayonet. You have really knocked my collection out of the box.
 
Yeah, I've got the bayo for the M14, and could kick myself for not buying the Garand bayonets when they were cheap.


munk
 
I gave my M-9 and M-7 bayonets from Desert Storm to some boys in my old squadron, else y'all would be welcome to 'em. Only bayonet I still have is a souvenir from Afghanistan. It fits an AK, and it's got Russian markings, seems them boys left in a hurry back in the eighties, and left a lot of their toys behind. ;)

Sarge
 
Most of the collectables, firearms or blades, have of course an unknown history. I guess 'known' can be all the way to who defended who and stopped so and so. But a battlefied pickup, still unknown, has a special meaning. How much more than just a blade picked from a box full of discarded blades. Course, you might have to earn a unique blade the hard way- from the ground where the fighting was.

You're just covered with stories, Sarge.


munk
 
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