Another shooting:Should we tell someone???

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Here's my reason for posting this: over and over again I see stories like this where the shooter tells people, sometimes explicitly, that they are going to kill people. And the people DON'T TELL ANYONE!!

I'm not saying it could have helped in this case, or maybe some others. But don't you think people should at least TRY to get the cops interested when someone warns you that they are going to blow? Maybe the cops won't be receptive...maybe the time has come to empower the police to do something---at the least find the person and talk to them? I don't have a solution...:(

ANy ideas?




TACOMA, Washington (CNN) -- A man accused of wounding six people in a shooting rampage at a Tacoma mall warned in cell-phone text messages that "the world" was going to feel "my anger" and "my pain," his ex-girlfriend said Monday.

Minutes before the shootings began, Dominick Maldonado sent a series of text messages to Tiffany Robison, she said.

One, which she showed the media on her phone, reads, "Today is the day that the world will know my anger. Today the world will feel my pain. Today is the day I will be heard!"

The message shows it was sent at 11:58 a.m. -- 17 minutes before authorities say the shootings began at Tacoma Mall.

The couple broke up about six months ago, Robison said. But Sunday morning, she received a phone call from Maldonado, "saying he was either going to a good place where good people go or a bad place where bad people go," she said. (Watch witnesses describe horror of mall shootings -- 1:52)

The Seattle Times reported that Maldonado also sent a text message to his best friend saying the world would "feel my anger" -- after he allegedly had shot six people and was holding hostages in a music store at the mall.

Tacoma police spokesman Mark Fulghum said Maldonado was taken into custody after negotiations that resulted in the hostages being released unharmed.

Maldonado, 20, has been booked on assault and kidnapping charges at the Pierce County Jail. He is being held on $450,000 bail on six counts of felony assault and three counts of felony kidnapping.

Jon Lendosky, Tacoma's deputy fire chief, said five of the six people wounded in the shooting had minor injuries.

One patient arrived at Tacoma General Hospital in critical condition. Hospital supervisor Holly Smith said the male patient remained in critical condition early Monday. He had multiple gunshot wounds and had undergone surgery, she said.

The patient was not conscious and was on a ventilator, Smith said.

Inside the mall Sunday, Stacy Wilson, 29, heard a popping noise and turned around, the AP reported. "I saw the gunman randomly shooting. I ran with a group of women to Victoria's Secret," Wilson told the AP. She told the AP they crouched behind a wall in the store, and when the shooting stopped, an employee ran out and closed a security gate at the front.

Wilson said she heard 15 to 20 shots, according to the AP.

"He was walking backward and shooting. I couldn't see his face," she told the AP. "Everyone was running and screaming."

The Seattle Times also reported that Maldonado has a juvenile criminal history dating to 1998, including convictions on charges of burglary, theft and trafficking in stolen property, and court records show a judge had ordered him not to possess weapons. The newspaper also said court files show Maldonado had struggled with drugs for years.

Maldonado has not made a public statement.

Robison said that when she received his text messages she responded, asking what he was going to do, but he didn't answer. She said she thought "he's going to do something stupid." (Transcript)

When a friend called Robison to tell her about the shooting at the mall, Robison said, she suspected Maldonado. Shortly afterward, she said, he called her and told her he had shot people and was holding people hostage in a Sam Goody music store.

"He said, like, 'I'm crazy, I'm crazy. I can't do this. I'm crazy. I got to let you go. I'm on the other line with the police,' and that was the end of that," she said.

Robison said she "had never heard" of him having a weapon.
 
Wish he would have chosen the "bad place with bad people." How to deal with things like this? At least nobody died. Thank God.

Chris
 
namaarie said:
Wish he would have chosen the "bad place with bad people."

I thought he did choose the bad place. The article says the shooting happened at a mall.

-Tycho-
 
Been at that mall many times. If this'd happened two years ago, I might've been there.

J
 
I didn't want to weigh in on this thread.
We've a lot of our population opting out of participation in society. They aren't here. Tell someone of a possible impending crime? Not as long as their bacon is safe.


The 'New Orleans" underbelly is alive and well all over America.



munk
 
Tell someone of a possible impending crime? Not as long as their bacon is safe.

There is a part of me that is trying to believe that most people would report it, if they thought it would do any good. I may be nieve(sp?) but I'd like to think that is the case. Now if you factor in apathy and fear/mistrust/hatred of the police....well.

I really don't know what the solution is. But I think the time when we could ignore people who make threats like this is over, most of the school shootings have had warning signs--sometimes very obvios ones. And someone chose to say "boys will be boys, they don't really mean it..."
 
If you reasonably brlieve them to be a threat kill them yourself.
If you do not have the guts; call the hired killers.
 
You never know when people make threats like this. Too bad someone did not stop him sooner.

How could he shoot six people and nobody died? I am glad that it worked out that way.
 
How could he shoot six people and nobody died? I am glad that it worked out that way.>>>>>>>> Bill Marsh

I don't know. Did he use a Nine?


munk
 
The problem is the tens of thousands of people who make the same kind of "threats" on a daily basis. It's difficult to impossible to know with any certainty who is serious and who is blowing off steam. Sometimes the person making the threats doesn't know how serious they are until it's too late.
 
Rhino makes a very good point.
"I'll kill ya." Has become everyday speech.




munk
 
I don't know. Did he use a Nine?

Nope. An AK-47.

The problem is the tens of thousands of people who make the same kind of "threats" on a daily basis. It's difficult to impossible to know with any certainty who is serious and who is blowing off steam. Sometimes the person making the threats doesn't know how serious they are until it's too late.

True. :(
 
Supposedly he got the AK from a classified ad from an individual. Otherwise the instant check would have disqualified him from buying it.

AK's seem popular for those kind of folks. About a year ago an employee came in to a board of ed meeting here and pulled one out and started shooting over some problems with his job. Amazingly nobody died. One of the judges that work in my building had a wife that got shot in the stomach, but she recovered. Despite their popularity doesn't seem like they are as fatal in a shooting rampage as a pistol:(
 
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