Antique Finish for blades (info. on)

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Hello everyone, i saw a blade with a "antique finish" on it, in a knife mag. I as curious about what the process is, how you do it, and whats involved. thanks

Aaron G.
 
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I would like to know the answer to this one myself.
I do know that a blade has to be very nicely finished to start with in order to have a very nicely finihed "antique" blade.

One trick I have used is a thick heavy coat of mayonaise or Miracle Whip salad dressing left over night to put an instant patina and a hundred years of age on a blade. I have done this on a couple of carbon steel blades from Russell and CS.


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Actually thats where i checked first, and i didn't find anything. thanks anyway. Mayonise huh? never would of thought of that. well thanks to all who answered.

Aaron G.
 
one from the late bob engrafh is to put the blade in a black bag with canned tomatos and leave it in the sun for a day. not wanting to waste the tomatos i can up with one that works even better out on the side of the shop i place the knife with the handle wraped in plastic tightly and newspaper around the blade. then piss on it till it is soaked, come out afew hours later rotate and piss again. check in the evening on the progress, maybe rewrap piss and leave over night!

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I know if you cut an onion with an L6 blade it will turn grayish black instantly.

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Thets cause I'm caustic like that .
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I really don't like the way this conversation is going (If you stick a knife in an onion) .
Actually thats true . You can also patina with yogurt and ammonia ,salt and mayonaise or damn near any acidic fruit.It's getting that perfect mix of ingredients for that perfect patina that I'd like to know.

 
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Broken Arrow that posts in the HI Forum came up with a really different finish on blades. I wouldn't exactly call it antique though. He has a Barong and a Moro Sword that he used ferric chloride and Brownell's cold blue together on. The finish came out with a nice dark grey and blue splotched finish.
The blued places are quite large instead of being like a leopard more like a paint horse.
The large surface area of the blades have a lot to do with the way it looks. I found it rather pretty and very unusual.

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I've played with a technique that's used by the trappers for traps. Traps are carbon steel and come fully oiled from the factory. The oil and scents are removed by boiling in water with sumac (the red flowers/berries), elderberries and/or walnut husks. This adds a blueish grey patina. The patina not only takes off the high shine, but adds a bit of corrosion resistance. I did this for a couple of carbon steel blades and had great success. I use one for a do-all and take as little care of it as possible as a test piece. Still looks great.

Sounds like the simplicity of the Mayo naise is the way to go...

Dan
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Yvsa,

What kind of a finish do you end up with when you use the mayo? Was this a stainless steel or a carbon?

Thanks,
Diligence
 
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The finish with mayonaise looks like a really old kitchen knife that has had good care. Not soaked in water, washed and wiped off then put away.
Some people like it, I do, others hate the mottled finish.
I used it on carbon steel blades. I don't know if it would work on stainlees, but I doubt it.
HTH's.
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Dan, how long do you boil the blade and will this help a 1095 blade resist rusting???

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For carbon steels,A 600 satin finish,tool black the blade then bring out a dull dark luster by using a real fine scotch rite pad.
Looks neat,if you interested in seeing one,e-mail me.



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L6, I tried both 0-1 and 1095. The 0-1 came out great and still to this day takes what I can give it. The 1095 came out with some shiny specs, probably due to heat treat or finish variances. The 1095 did not resist rust very well. Again, this was probably not the steels fault. I boiled the blades roughly 20 minutes, give or take. You can tell the depth of the blueing immediately. I believe the walnut husks offer the greatest stain, then sumac, then elderberry.

Dan
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Sharp Thoughts, do you mean Mustard Gas or the related anti-cancer toxins? Dangerous stuff to work with...

Or just the yellow Hot Dog relish?
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Related but probably irrelevant question: is the standard American yellow mustard better, or worse, than Grey Poupon?

 
Hey Guys....

When you bring up antique finish,,now you are talking my language....

Now this may not concern steel,, but more on the lines of copper/bronze bolsters,,although it may work on steel,,I don't know...

Heres a few pictures of my art work and the patina color I use on my maple leaves...

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Here is a little better picture maybe on a pair of customers baby shoes I did...

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To get a Green finish you use a combination of Vineger,Zinc Choride(liquid solder flux),and Salamoniac (tinners paste or block)

Now I'll have to check my recipes to see what amounts to use.....
If anyone is interested e-mail me...

Ohh ya and Urine works OK as well for Green patina....

ttyle Eric....

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