Recommendation? Any blade materials out there that are completely rustproof besides H1 and titanium?

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Hi all, currently looking for a knife that will spend most of its life in or near saltwater. As such, I'm looking for blade materials which can handle the extreme abuse it will face. I've seen first hand how well H1 holds up but the cost is a bit prohibitive for a full tang knife (until I can save up enough to get one). I've also seen full tang titanium knives, but I can't seem to find anymore for under $50 anymore, and they all seem to cost as much as H1 now. Are there any other metals out there which will resist corrosion as well as these two while remaining relatively cheap (less than $50 or so)?

P.S. I already own a Spyderco H1 Dragonfly, but I am wanting a full tang knife too.
 
And Zytel...you can “enhance” the blades edge with an emory board!

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Seriously, as previously stated, H1 and LC200n are probably the best choices out there. H1 tends to excel with serrations and not so much with a plain edge.
 
Heh thanks for the suggestions so far. I guess I'm am looking at just buying a cheap knife for now and upgrading to H1 or similar later. Can't seem to find much at a reasonable price point that isn't complete junk. Is Buck's 420HC actually rust-proof or just rust-resistant?

Ceramic?
Can’t rust, but gotta treat it delicately.

Haha no way. I have two sets of ceramic kitchen knives and no matter how delicately I treat them, can't say so much for my roommates. One of them dropped a knife tip down and completely shattered it and another roommate threw it in the sink and made a nice chip in the blade. Impossible to sharpen it too since ceramic is so hard (I have an electric diamond stone which sends sparks flying on the ceramic knives).
 
I mean, there is always 420j2, that probably won’t ever rust on you. Won’t hold an edge of course, but you’re running low on options if you wanna keep the price down. You obviously want an lc200 Mule team, but they’re pretty hard to get a hold of. There’s always the Spyderco Ark in H1 that’s not so much higher than $50. You probably are gonna have to save up. That is if you’re serious of course. I almost get the feeling your asking just to ask.
 
Boye Cobalt dendritic click the link

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Heh thanks for the suggestions so far. I guess I'm am looking at just buying a cheap knife for now and upgrading to H1 or similar later. Can't seem to find much at a reasonable price point that isn't complete junk. Is Buck's 420HC actually rust-proof or just rust-resistant?
It’s not as stainless as 420j2, but it’s among the most stainless steels that are decent for knives. Buck put a good heat treatment on it too.
 
I mean, there is always 420j2, that probably won’t ever rust on you. Won’t hold an edge of course, but you’re running low on options if you wanna keep the price down. You obviously want an lc200 Mule team, but they’re pretty hard to get a hold of. There’s always the Spyderco Ark in H1 that’s not so much higher than $50. You probably are gonna have to save up. That is if you’re serious of course. I almost get the feeling your asking just to ask.

I've never heard of the Mule Team but after looking it up it's exactly what I would want. Good price and good manufacturer. Unfortunately not sure where I would find one. The Ark is just too small. Yes I'm serious, which is why I said I'd probably make do with a cheapie for now and save up for the H1 (or similar). I just can't seem to find anything that is shatterproof, fixed blade, and rustproof for the (perhaps unrealistic) price point I have.
 
- H1

EDGE RETENTION: 2 CORROSION RESISTANCE: 9 EASE OF SHARPENING: 8

H1 steel from Japan’s Myodo Metals is basically the ultimate in corrosion resistance and essentially does not rust. The epitome of true stainless steel. Naturally, this comes at a price and that price is edge retention which is relatively poor. So, while excellent for diving it’s a non-starter for most EDC use. Very expensive stuff.

GEARJUNKIE ON H1 STEEL: "This is a nitrogen steel that is extremely corrosion resistant – so much so that it’s used in knives designed to go in salt water, among the most difficult conditions knives are used in. It’s not a particularly great cutter, being poor at retaining an edge. But it’s lightyears ahead of the alternatives, specifically titanium-bladed knives."


- LC 200N STEEL

GEARJUNKIE ON LC 200N STEEL: "Also known as Z-Finit, Zapp produces this steel in America. It was originally developed for use as ball bearing steel by NASA. The unique process used to make LC 200N results in a fine-grain structure. LC 200N is an elite performer, with high hardness, high toughness, and off-the-charts corrosion resistance. This is a virtually stain-proof steel suitable for all sorts of aquatic environments. Spyderco is the only production company using this steel, though Michael Gavik of Gavko knives produced a number of customs in LC 200N."


- Nitro-V
58-60 HRC

GEARJUNKIE ON Nitro V STEEL: "In nitrogen steels, nitrogen is used as the iron hardener instead of carbon, thus limiting the possibility of rusting. Developed by New Jersey Steel Baron, Nitro V is a non-powder steel marketed as an enhanced version of AEB-L. Nitro V, as its name indicates, adds nitrogen to AEB-L’s formula to make the steel even more corrosion resistant. It has enough water-fighting properties that it can be used in marine environments."


- SM-100 AKA HIPTiNite, Great write up in Blade Magazine, March 2016. Powdered metal(PM) technology, is NOT steel, it is 60% nickel and 40% titanium. 60HRC or better with good edge retention and wear resistance. Can be left in saltwater for 50yrs and show no corrosion. For one knife expect high labor and material costs as it takes up to 6 belts ($40+ in belts alone) to shape one of these knives, as they are very hard and cannot be easily ground or machined. Material is being used by Strider Knives.

Contact: Duane Dwyer, Strider Knives, 1050-D Linda Vista Drive, San Marcos CA 92078 or call 760-471-8275

GEARJUNKIE ON SM100 STEEL: "The old rule in steels used to be: “Corrosion resistance, toughness, or hardness – choose two.” But SM100 (the trade name for Nitinol 60) threw that out the window when introduced to the cutlery world. It is very hard, tough, and corrosion resistant. It’s called memory metal because heat can get it to revert back to a previous shape. In fact, it’s not technically a steel at all, as it uses titanium and nickel. Steel is a combination of iron and carbon with other elements. But SM100 is not widely available, hard to heat treat and grind, and exceptionally expensive. No mainstream companies use SM100, and the niche makers that do usually charge more than $1,000 for knives with SM100 blades. But if you want to know what the coolest blade material is, for my money, SM100 is it."
 
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Hi all, currently looking for a knife that will spend most of its life in or near saltwater. As such, I'm looking for blade materials which can handle the extreme abuse it will face. I've seen first hand how well H1 holds up but the cost is a bit prohibitive for a full tang knife (until I can save up enough to get one). I've also seen full tang titanium knives, but I can't seem to find anymore for under $50 anymore, and they all seem to cost as much as H1 now. Are there any other metals out there which will resist corrosion as well as these two while remaining relatively cheap (less than $50 or so)?

P.S. I already own a Spyderco H1 Dragonfly, but I am wanting a full tang knife too.

Dendritic Cobalt as used in David Boye’s knives.

Stellite, which I believe is also known as Talonite.

They have those Beryllium copper knives which are not magnetic for landmines. I am not sure if they will develop that green copper patina but they certainly won’t rust.
 
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Heh thanks for the suggestions so far. I guess I'm am looking at just buying a cheap knife for now and upgrading to H1 or similar later. Can't seem to find much at a reasonable price point that isn't complete junk. Is Buck's 420HC actually rust-proof or just rust-resistant?



Haha no way. I have two sets of ceramic kitchen knives and no matter how delicately I treat them, can't say so much for my roommates. One of them dropped a knife tip down and completely shattered it and another roommate threw it in the sink and made a nice chip in the blade. Impossible to sharpen it too since ceramic is so hard (I have an electric diamond stone which sends sparks flying on the ceramic knives).

Buck’s 420hc is not rust proof. Being 420 steel though It is very rust resistant.

Check out the Ocean Master Dragon Claw if you don’t mind a little knife. It is Titanium and not that expensive.
 
I've never heard of the Mule Team but after looking it up it's exactly what I would want. Good price and good manufacturer. Unfortunately not sure where I would find one. The Ark is just too small. Yes I'm serious, which is why I said I'd probably make do with a cheapie for now and save up for the H1 (or similar). I just can't seem to find anything that is shatterproof, fixed blade, and rustproof for the (perhaps unrealistic) price point I have.
Was also going to suggest the spyderco mule in lc200n. Damn... last time I checked Spyderco had them in stock on their website... just checked again to verify and they are indeed gone :( Wish I would have picked one up when I had a chance a couple weeks ago.
 
n680 a bit better corrosion resistance than 420 and holds a bit of a better edge.
 
If it's just corrosion resistance you're after, 440C is an excellent compromise between it and cutting ability. All the non-ferrous metals that I thought about were already mentioned, and would be quite a bit more expensive.

Most Dive knives were just 300 or 400 series stainless, sometimes with an added chrome plating.
 
There is Mule in LC200N on eBay for $180 right now. Might as well just get a new one at that price...
 
If it's just corrosion resistance you're after, 440C is an excellent compromise between it and cutting ability. All the non-ferrous metals that I thought about were already mentioned, and would be quite a bit more expensive.

Most Dive knives were just 300 or 400 series stainless, sometimes with an added chrome plating.
Decent full tang knife for under $50 with some stainless super steel is not realistic . The above worked fine for a long time .:cool::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
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