Any choil-less Swamp knives?

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Any knives coming out with no choils? I'd really like a 3-5 inch bladed Swamp Rat but they all have choils. Choils suck!:barf: A choil-less ratmandu would be close to my ideal knife.
 
The Rodent Solution is about 3.5", and I'm not sure I'd say it really has a choil. Lots of good pics in this thread.

Choils have some purpose on larger knives. They certainly help if you need to choke up on the blade for finer work.
 
The vex doesnt really have a true choil and is about 4"

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++The Rodent Solution (RS) ++Steel SR101 ++blade length 3.5" ++Overall length 8 1/8" ++Thickness 3/16 ++width 1.1" ++Measurements are approx ++ ,,,,,,,and no choil :)
 
Maybe I have my terminology wrong but I thought any sort of hole is a choil. Maybe sharpening notch is more correct? Anyway, are there any new production knives coming out that don't have the little cut out between the blade and the guard like the ones pictured below? I want a knife where the blade goes all the way to the guard. IMO small knives are hampered by choils, even small ones. They tend to catch when cutting material.

Pic from the above link.
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I want something that has a blade terminating into the guard like this in SR101:
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Your terminology is correct, a choil is a sharpening notch, an indentation at the base of the blade marking a separation between the blade and the tang or handle/guard at the ricasso. The choil can be designed for a variety of purposes, including fore-finger groove (large) and wire-breaker notch (narrow), but its original purpose seems to have been for sharpening the entire length of the blade down to the handle/guard without damaging the ricasso.
The Spyderco Paramilitary 2 is an example of a choilless pocket knife that has a finger-groove incorporated into the ricasso. The SwampRat RS & SW choils are small, the RMD & Vex choils double as finger-grooves, but all do indeed have choils.

I think that the Swamp Muk (which I hope for someday) will be choilless ;)
 
chiral.grolim said:
Your terminology is correct, a choil is a sharpening notch, an indentation at the base of the blade marking a separation between the blade and the tang or handle/guard at the ricasso. The choil can be designed for a variety of purposes, including fore-finger groove (large) and wire-breaker notch (narrow), but its original purpose seems to have been for sharpening the entire length of the blade down to the handle/guard without damaging the ricasso.
The Spyderco Paramilitary 2 is an example of a choilless pocket knife that has a finger-groove incorporated into the ricasso. The SwampRat RS & SW choils are small, the RMD & Vex choils double as finger-grooves, but all do indeed have choils.

I think that the Swamp Muk (which I hope for someday) will be choilless ;)
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That would be a possibility. I liked the Busse one. 3/16" thick is a little overkill though and Sears is probably turning over in his grave knowing someone is using his name for what he would consider an overly thick knife.:D
 
Choilless and thin seem to be what the people want. I don't blame them.
 
I am curious why you don't buy used knives too, and how do you mean? Actually used or just owned? That might go a bit further for everyone's clarification..
 
Im curious too, maybe because of whatever abuse has already been done to it? Wouldnt matter with the bussekin family, knifes covered as long as you dont intentionally break it.
 
An HRLM with no choil would be perfect too........

............you know it's such a good handle and with the way recent offers from Busse have been presented, maybe someday we'll see a run of HRLM/RMDs available with choil, no choil, skinny, fat, micarta, G-10, whatever...
 
drbarnes said:
Im curious too, maybe because of whatever abuse has already been done to it? Wouldnt matter with the bussekin family, knifes covered as long as you dont intentionally break it.
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If I suspect a knife has been poorly sharpened I lose interest. Or he could of have been burned buying a used knife. Residual cooties on the handle left by the previous owner plays a factor as well. Why does it matter?

crm3137 said:
An HRLM with no choil would be perfect too........

............you know it's such a good handle and with the way recent offers from Busse have been presented, maybe someday we'll see a run of HRLM/RMDs available with choil, no choil, skinny, fat, micarta, G-10, whatever...
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HRLM's are the shiz, choil or not, I love 'em.
 
Curiosity. I could understand not wanting something that someone else potentially beat on, but hand cooties? :p. ;)
 
Hand cooties... LMAO!!! Just wipe it down with some disinfectant. Previous poor sharpening I could somewhat understand, but that is also not something that the Mothership couldn't fix right up. Being burned in a previous deal would be my guess. Just got to be careful who you buy from aorund here. Most people are good folks.
 
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