Any "computer" guys here i have a couple questions

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Im looking to get a new laptop.

this i want

i7 @ 2.4ghz or higher
2gig video card
750gig HD
12gb ram
windows 8 64 bit
usb 3.0
17" screen


i was thinking about a decktop but for how i use my computer i need it to be semi portable. it usually stays at my desk but it does go to the living room and to work and school sometimes.

I has narrowed it down to

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231090

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834198037

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834233023


I am not a "gamer" but i do use audo cad. inventor. solid works. and the 3d rendering is a killer. I like the asus g750jw the most but the hard drive is only 5400 rpms.

so i was wondering if anyone had opinions for me. on different models or etc. If i got the asus i would probably get a SSD but i have never installed computer parts before. is it just plug and play? i worked at a tech plant for years when i was younger and am familar with all the components and inner workings. i used to build units at the job too but i never turned the machines on afterword.

is it difficult to run the OS on a installed SSD and run the 5400rom drive as the secondary? or is it just plug and play and a few settings being adjusted once the computer is back on?


thanks


ps- i hope this is in the right section
 
Asus has never done me wrong. I prefer ssd for my os, but I generally keep my page file on a normal hd to avoid burning up the ssd over time. Ssd's have amazing advantages in speed, but they tend to have shorter life expectancies than regular hds. Since you can't run 2 drives w/o using an external on a laptop, I would recommend a normal HD. The reason for this recommendation is that if you try to run the external for storage you'll be
A) wasting a lot of ssd space
B) sacrificing speed of read/write to the USB cable
C) spending money on un-needed storage (akin to 'A' above).

You probably won't notice any meaningful timing differences in going with a classic HD, and you'll save a lot of money. If you do go ssd, don't worry: everything is plug and play these days. I recommend about 250Gb though, just for the os and vital progs like AutoCAD. My main fear is that if you go this route and you move the page file to the external its going to slow you down a lot. If you keep the page file on the ssd you risk premature failure, hence the recommendation of normal HD. A Tb of storage is pretty cheap on a 7200rpm HD these days. If you have any more questions feel free to ask.
Cheers,
-G
 
Of those three I'd go with the Fangbook (door #2). My choice for your applications. Sufficiently hoss for CAD, unreasonably good at everything else as a result, and cheaper than the Asus. I recommend the longest full replacement warranty you can afford, too. They save your butt almost every time.
Good luck, brother!
 
Either number one or two will be great for your applicaiton. I work in AutoCad, ArcGIS, and a whole bunch of other 3d software at work. My work laptop is a Core i7 with 16gb of ram and i am pretty sure its that same Nvidia card (or the AMD equivalent). My personal laptop is a Macbook pro running dual SSDs. One 128gb and one 256gb. No problems after a years worth of use. The right laptop can use dual hard drives, but I am pretty sure they are few and far between.
 
Honestly there is no need for an i7 processor. I5 is plenty for almost anything! This could help lower your cost. Ssd is very easy to install I have it in both my desktop and my MacBook Pro and the speed difference is notable from the standard hard drive. I really like the choices you have made especially the second one. But the apple fanatic in me wants to recommend you the MacBook Pro! The new retina ones come standard with ssd. And they are fantastic and can do anything a PC can do these days program wise
 
from what i read though the g750jx model which is about 2000, is the same shell as the asus g750jw i am looking at. it has the 5400rpm 1tb and from what i read has a slot for another. so i would get a 128 or 256 gb ssd. i know how to install it in the laptop, but after its in i think there is a exchange program to move the os and main programs like cad solidworks and inventor which i use most over to the SSD to increase speed?

and i did not know life expectancy was shorter in ssd. when you say shorter what does that exactly mean? will it just crash and fail to work or will i know its on its way out to save my data. i usually do backups to a external and online storage ever 3-4 months
 
DDA2011 said:
Honestly there is no need for an i7 processor. I5 is plenty for almost anything! This could help lower your cost. Ssd is very easy to install I have it in both my desktop and my MacBook Pro and the speed difference is notable from the standard hard drive. I really like the choices you have made especially the second one. But the apple fanatic in me wants to recommend you the MacBook Pro! The new retina ones come standard with ssd. And they are fantastic and can do anything a PC can do these days program wise
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i currently run a macbook pro 15 from late 2009 after the updates. it has a core 2 duo @ 2.8 and my computer runs good but its starting to have trouble running parallels because i use windows autodesk programs. and i am usually a year behind because work and school are behind on the software always.

but about apple products : for me it has never failed. and besides maybe 20 hard resets in 5 years from freezing during a render i have not one complaint to make. they make good stuff but i want more power :)
 
InSpectre Gadget said:
Info on the nature of ssds, and their pros and cons:


Part 1:

http://blog.raxco.com/2012/12/28/how-to-extend-the-life-of-your-ssd-hard-drive-part-1/

Part 2:

http://blog.raxco.com/2013/02/01/how-to-extend-the-life-of-your-ssd-hard-drive-part-2/
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Thanks, this was a good read.

After reading up a little more i do have some time before i plan to buy a laptop. i really want to do my best to last until cyber monday and get a deal :)

but right now i think im leaning towards the asus, i found a model with 8gb ram for 12xx and if i add the ram myself i can get it to 24gb for 1300 im going to look into a higher rpm HD to help speed it up. or maybe simply get a 64gb SSD to just hold os and my main programs
 
Get a laptop you can dock is all I'll suggest. I've got one for my work computer and it's great.
 
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