Any feedback on U.S. Classic brand?

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DaveJ

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I saw an ad for these traditional pattern folders in Knife World and on e-bay there are a couple sellers. They are cheap, a 4 blade congress pattern for about $18 shipped. The sellers are up front about the knives being made in China but say they are not typical Chinese cheap. For the price they would make good carry and use knives if they will hold up reasonably well.

Does anyone here have any experience with this brand?

Thanks,
DaveJ
 
I have no idea about that brand, but some folks have bought rough rider knives, also made in china, and have reported back favorably. They may be related; RR makes a few brands.
 
DaveJ said:
I saw an ad for these traditional pattern folders in Knife World and on e-bay there are a couple sellers. They are cheap, a 4 blade congress pattern for about $18 shipped. The sellers are up front about the knives being made in China but say they are not typical Chinese cheap. For the price they would make good carry and use knives if they will hold up reasonably well.

Does anyone here have any experience with this brand?

Thanks,
DaveJ
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I just bought a few to try out. They are made of 440c and are a bit crude, but I won't cry if I lose or break one.
In their current appearance they will never replace good old American folders.
Philosophically you gotta wonder if it's right to support China, and threaten the American cutlery industry. Comments?
 
waynorth said:
I just bought a few to try out. They are made of 440c and are a bit crude, but I won't cry if I lose or break one.
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Do they say "440C" or just "440"?

Philosophically you gotta wonder if it's right to support China, and threaten the American cutlery industry. Comments?
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How do chinese imports threaten the American Cutlery Industry?
 
Sword and Shield said:
Ummm... you buy a Chinese-built knife, you're not buying a US-built one?
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Then what hurt the US company?

The presence of the import, or the domestic company not being price competitive?
 
Seeing as how this is going to be moved into political, chinese prices are lower because they do no thave to adhere to the quality of work environment, pollution controls, or in some cases, patent/copyright laws. I Do not buy chinese products if I can avoid it.
 
Dijos said:
Seeing as how this is going to be moved into political, chinese prices are lower because they do no thave to adhere to the quality of work environment, pollution controls, or in some cases, patent/copyright laws. I Do not buy chinese products if I can avoid it.
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Correct. And many times use slave labor. And by the way, it is a Communist country. Many times the Chinese products are all you find, but that is not true of knives. Buy the American made knives while you still can.
 
But when it comes to computers....suddenly we cave, then gripe at others who buy products from the same company.
 
The Last Confederate said:
Do they say "440C" or just "440"?



How do chinese imports threaten the American Cutlery Industry?
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they say 440. no C. I assume this has to do with carbon content. I haven't used or sharpened one yet, but will report back.
 
The Last Confederate said:
Then what hurt the US company?

The presence of the import, or the domestic company not being price competitive?
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Both hurt the U.S. economy. The presence will suck fools like me into buying them (I consider buying them a social experiment considering all the feedback I've been getting!).
They can undercut U.S. workers because the labor to make them gets few benefits.
I usually avoid all things possible made outside North America, but decided I needed to see these and try them out. FYI 12 of them cost less than one nice U.S. knife when you buy a dozen.
 
Regardless of where outside of the US it was made, I won't be buying one.

The seller now states that they were made in China in his auctions. However he never did previously. "U.S. Classic", and no mention of foreign manufacture is just a tad too ethically unsound for me.
 
waynorth said:
they say 440. no C. I assume this has to do with carbon content. I haven't used or sharpened one yet, but will report back.
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OK, thanks. Usually when they just say "440", that turns out to be 440A, but let us know how it holds up, some of their knifes I saw on Ebay today don't look to bad.
 
waynorth said:
Both hurt the U.S. economy. The presence will suck fools like me into buying them (I consider buying them a social experiment considering all the feedback I've been getting!).
They can undercut U.S. workers because the labor to make them gets few benefits.
I usually avoid all things possible made outside North America, but decided I needed to see these and try them out. FYI 12 of them cost less than one nice U.S. knife when you buy a dozen.
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I know the arguements, what makes me curious is when Americans, that love "free market Capitalism" then seem shock when it works.

Company A makes a product at a certain price, Company B makes a similiar product at a much lower price, a price that draws more sales.

I thought that's what the market was all about?
 
Thanks for the feedback, those of you who have held and used one. I didn't intend to re-start the China thing again, I was just wondering how the knives are. From the auction pictures the jigging looks Pakistan but I'll probably get one and check it out. If I use it up in a couple months, no problem, I just won't be buying another one.

DaveJ
 
The Last Confederate said:
OK, thanks. Usually when they just say "440", that turns out to be 440A, but let us know how it holds up, some of their knifes I saw on Ebay today don't look to bad.
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I just emailed John Cable who is part of the consortium, including Jim Sargent, who designed and ordered these knives. He claims it is 440C supplied from the U.S!
 
I think it's going to come down to an ethical question! Free market capitalism is O.K. until someone is grossly exploited. What good does it do to save a few bucks and create misery! When no-one is exploited you will no longer have to lock your doors, or carry self defense tools. Of course not in our lifetimes!
 
Some knives made in China are certainly of good quality ...... usually the ones being made to the specs of a respected company like Buck, Spyderco, Benchmade, etc. Still, my knife-purchasing dollars go to products made in the U.S., Switzerland, Germany and (in the case of all the Spydercos I've owned) Japan.
 
waynorth said:
I just emailed John Cable who is part of the consortium, including Jim Sargent, who designed and ordered these knives. He claims it is 440C supplied from the U.S!
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GREAT...440C is a favorite steel of mine, now I'll have to give these a closer look!
 
Wow...this is wierd, I had all the "U.S. Classics" knives on ebay in my "watching" list, and just checked and al of them say "The seller ended this listing early."

EDIT: Found some more listed from other sellers, but this is odd. I found one "U.S. Classics" brown bone copperhead on Ebay but the box says "Frost Cutlery".
 
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