Any good Balisongs/folders/assisteds in ZPD-189?

The Spyderco Stretch II in ZDP-189 with carbon fiber scales is an excellent folder in that price range.
 
kershaw mini cyclone with titanium handles and zdp blade is quite a bargain at around 130.
 
Spyderco Calypso Jr. had a sprint run in ZDP. If you can still find them it would be around 60-70 dollars. Nice knife..
 
There was a Kershaw Leek with a Damascus blade, the pharmacy has some in stock.

Mcusta has a lot of Damascus blade knives, but I have no experience with one, so I can't speak to quality... others will chime in though, I'm sure.
 
A few years ago Benchmade made some of their balisongs with damascus blades. You may be able to find someone selling them on the net.
 
Damascus is decorative material not even close in performance to others you mentioned. How did it appear in the same list?

There are very few American companies which were able to get ZDP189 - William&Henry, Spyderco and Kershaw. Others pretend like D2 and CPM S30V are the best choice for their customers... Under $500 I you may check Yuna knives it is custom but near this price tag.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Some damascus blades hold an edge quite well and are relatively easy to sharpen. I've not had a problem with the Devin Thomas damascus steel blades from Chris Reeve.
One of my Large Classic Sebenzas with a stainless damascus blade I use quite often.

http://www.chrisreeve.com/damascus.htm
 
Rich357 said:
Some damascus blades hold an edge quite well and are relatively easy to sharpen. I've not had a problem with the Devin Thomas damascus steel blades from Chris Reeve.
One of my Large Classic Sebenzas with a stainless damascus blade I use quite often.

http://www.chrisreeve.com/damascus.htm
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Sure, but it is not even close to ZDP-189 and even CPM S30V (until it is not Suminogashi of course, William&Henry had some ZDP189 suminogash - Legacy or something?).

Thanks, Vassili.
 
nozh2002 said:
Sure, but it is not even close to ZDP-189 and even CPM S30V (until it is not Suminogashi of course, William&Henry had some ZDP189 suminogash - Legacy or something?).

Thanks, Vassili.
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That brings up the question, how good does the steel need to be?

Maybe I'm not a heavy duty user but I see virtually no difference in edge holding and cutting ability between my S30V Sebenzas and stainless damascus Sebenzas.
 
Rich357 said:
That brings up the question, how good does the steel need to be?

Maybe I'm not a heavy duty user but I see virtually no difference in edge holding and cutting ability between my S30V Sebenzas and stainless damascus Sebenzas.
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Well sure, of course, it is up to everybody what kind of quality they are looking for. Some like best performance some likes pattern on the blade. So many people does not see virtually difference between 420 and ZDP189. It is all up to personal preferences. However if we are talking in absolute values - then so called damascus is behind top grade steels.

Thanks, Vassili.

P.S. I feel it is need to be sad, because so many times I see that damascus was promoted as an performer beyond what modern metallurgy may offer.
 
You could contactDarrel Ralph or Pandayan and see if they could make up something for you. Not sure if you would be in the $500 range but I would look amazing!

Edit-Both of those makers are Bali guys because, well I'm a Bali guy :D
 
Rich357 said:
That brings up the question, how good does the steel need to be?

Maybe I'm not a heavy duty user but I see virtually no difference in edge holding and cutting ability between my S30V Sebenzas and stainless damascus Sebenzas.
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Having read these boards for a couple of years, it is my opinion that most people in their everyday use do not need extreme performance from their knives. It's nice to have, and I like premium steel myself, but just how good does the steel really need to be to open envelopes and blister packs. For a lot of folks, that's pretty much what they use their premium steel knives for. And there's nothing wrong with using premium steel to do that. But if one were to recognize that one need not have ultimate performance steel, it opens up possibilities for some very nice knives that just don't happen to use super premium steel.

excuse me while I pontificate, you can skip this part if you want.
The question was once asked, "If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a noise if no one is there to hear it?". Likewise, if your knife has a steel that has premium performance, and you do not use it such that the performance shows, do you need the super, uber performance above all else, steel? Some of us do because having it gives us deep satisfaction. Some of us don't. But it is still worth thinking about, "What performance is 'good enough' for what I need?"

ok, back to as normal as I get.
 
I'll have to get a little Delica and see how I like the ZDP189.

Heck, I have knives made with 1095, Carbon V, 440c, M2, D2, INFI, 154-CM, ATS-34, BG42, VG-10, S30V and several types of of Damascus both high carbon and stainless.

It sounds as if ZDP189 is a little fussy about what you use to sharpen it. Chips sometimes when using a creamic rod.
 
My only nit pick is that you shouldn't blow off Damascus as if it is junk steel. I have quite a bit of user experience with Damascus steel blades and they cut very nicely.

Devin Thomas Stainless Steel Fireball Damascus (Large Classic Sebenza)
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To be more clear. Not all Damascus steel is the same quality and not all knife makers are equal in heat treating blades. But, the Damascus used by the better knife makers is very nice for actually cutting things. It isn't just for show.
 
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