Any Interest In A Custom-Made Knife In CPM3V?

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donovan

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Here's the deal. I've been wanting to try out 3V for quite awhile now. I talked with Chuck Hallberg and he got some barstock. I would like Paul Bos to do the heat-treat, because well, he's Paul Bos. To keep this economical Chuck needs to send several blades to Paul at one time. So, here is an opportunity for anyone interested to get a nice price on a cutting-edge steel
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with an incomparable heat-treat from a good maker in a reasonable period of time.

As an example, Chuck made this knife for my daughter:

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This one is D2, about 7" OAL with G10 handles. In 3V it would run about $160. You do not have to get this design. Chuck can make you anything from a neck knife to a hunter to a fighter. Cost would, of course, go up or down based on size and materials.

If you are not familiar with the properties of 3V you can do a search and get lots of great info. You can view Chuck's webpage here: www.angelfire.com/tx2/hallberg/ or e-mail him at chuckh23@earthlink.net .

So, that's my story. Through the miracle of the Internet and the good graces of Bladeforums, somewhere in Texas, an impatient man is reaching out to you. If I've touched you in any way, please, call today. Help me to help you.
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And get a great knife in the deal.

If you're still with me, thanks.

Jack

 
While my post was going up, Chuck's e-mail was going down. It looks to be good this a.m., so if you had any problems contacting him, try again, or if the problem persists you can contact me. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Jack
 
How hard is Paul heat treating the 3V to, and is he using specs from Crucible or some method he devised?

-Cliff
 
The CPM-3V I got from Paul is Rc60. I think he follows Crucible's schedule with the addition of the cryogenic quench followed by triple tempering. I think steel companies are quiet on some aspects of heat treating because it is a problem in certain areas of application (ie, cryogenic quenching is not practical for all their customers - to suggest it's necessary would be a problem for them).

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Jerry Hossom
www.hossom.com

[This message has been edited by GaKnife (edited 03-24-2000).]
 
You would certainly know better than I would, Jerry, but it was my understanding that Paul had a set "batch" price, so that obviously more knives equals a lower per unit cost. Perhaps your knife was included in a batch or perhaps I am mistaken.

Jack
 
Paul has a batch price of $60 for 20 blades, then $3 per blade thereafter. He also has a single blade price of $12. He told me about both prices personally so I suspect they're pretty accurate.

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Jerry Hossom
www.hossom.com
 
Isn't it generally better to have a blade treated individually rather than in a batch, all things (besides cost) being considered? And at $12 for treating one blade (vs. $3 per blade if you have 20), cost ceases to be a major factor. I mean, that's only a $9 discount, right? Of course, every $ counts, though. Thanks for letting us in on this, in either case, donovan.

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iktomi
 
I'm going to speak for two people I have no right to speak for, but here we go. I'm imagining that Paul Bos' batches are small compared to a major knife manufacturers. That would tend to eliminate or minimize the disparities between individual knives being treated. I'm not well connected in the knife world, but I've never heard any complaints in this regard concerning Paul's work.

As for the relatively small difference in cost for heat treating ($3 being a minimum and $12 a maximum) the way I understood it from Chuck was that a batch cost was $60. One knife, twenty knives, if Paul was doing a treatment it was $60. That becomes a large difference on a per knife basis and prompted my post. Maybe Chuck misunderstood Paul, probably I misunderstood Chuck. Either way, increased knives equals decreased cost, although the scale obviously shifts.

I have no vested interest in the deal other than getting my knife made. I'm even willing to go last.
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I still view it as a good opportunity for folks who have an interest to try 3V.

Jack

 
Originally posted by donovan:
...I still view it as a good opportunity for folks who have an interest to try 3V.
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I by-no-means intended to imply otherwise, and was sincere in my thanks.
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And, considering the looks of the knife above, it especially seems a sweet deal. I wish I could take advantage of it. Hmmm... maybe I need to look at some things again.

~$160 for 3V. That's the high-carbon, low-chromium version, right?

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iktomi
 
In about 2-3 weeks, I will be sending 20+ CPM-3V blades to Paul for heat treating. Donavan send your blade to me, and I'll incude it with mine at no charge. I'll even pay the shipping back to you. Deal?

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Jerry Hossom
www.hossom.com
 
I took no offense at your comments, Rockspyder. We should chalk it up to the inefficiency of this type of communication. I think your ratios are reversed, however. I believe 3V is low carbon and high chromium. It has excellent impact resistance, but average wear resistance. This makes it suited for large blades, hard use blades, or what I am trying- very thin edges.

Jerry-thank you very much for your generous offer. Chuck is starting tomorrow on the knives on order, so his shipment to Paul should be going out shortly. If we meet at the Bladeshow, though, it would be my privilege to treat you to your favorite beverage.
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Jack
 
one thing i might add....Paul will temper your blades to whatever rockwell you desire, even though he has a set formula for all the steels....if you want it harder or softer he will accomidate your request....
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great guy. and jerry, that sounds great..will be sending out a small batch to you this week.. thanks a million brother....
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[This message has been edited by tom mayo (edited 03-29-2000).]
 
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