Any Interest In A Possible DC Area Knife Knuts Luncheon?

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FullerH

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We haven't had a DC Area Knife Knuts Luncheon in quite a long time, several years in fact. We now seem to have a fairly good number of active members in the general Washington, DC area and I was wondering if you all would like to get together for a lunch. We could use the Capitol City Brewing Company Restaurant in the old Main Post Office Building next door to Union Station and the Union Station Metro Stop. But that is only a suggestion. Is thare any interest?
 
Darn Hugh, if I was closer I would come. I'd love to meet you and mycroft.
 
Hugh and I have been exchanging PMs and emails about getting together for lunch for about a year and a half and we have never gotten together yet. :(

I'm still up for it. I'm only a couple of Metro stops from Union Station. Unfortunately, we will not be able to bring many of our knives because we can't possess knives with blades over 2.5 inches in our federal buildings - I'll bring my Spyderco Kiwi (2 3/8 inch blade).
 
I would like to come down, but can we carry knives in DC ;).

I've been looking for an excuse to visit the National Museum of the American Indian, missed a visit scheduled by my Advisory Council.
 
Folding knives with blade of less than 3" length are legal in DC and in most of the places. The Museums say no knives, but the enforcement tends to be spotty. Federal buildings allow a pocket knife with a blade of less than 2.5".
 
SHS, I have no idea of the identity of the agency for which you work, but the all, other than the courts, the White House complex, and the UC Capitol complex, must abide by 18USC930 and that is the law that secificly defines pocket knives with blades under 2.5" as not being "dangerous or deadly weapons" which are forbidden to be carried in a federal building.
 
Perhaps I should print out several copies of 18USC930 and give them away as "party favors" to those who come to the Knife Knuts Luncheon. :)
 
I've seen the code, and even talked about it with a friend of mine who is a contract security guard in another building. I believe you Hugh, just making a joke. Regardless of the law, they won't let you bring one in. As for the museum, I have no problem bringing a small folder in with me, I would feel naked without one.
 
I need to say that you can enter the Capitol City Brewing Company w/o going through any security for the rest of the old Main Post Office Building. It has a separate entrance.
 
FullerH said:
SHS, I have no idea of the identity of the agency for which you work, but the all, other than the courts, the White House complex, and the UC Capitol complex, must abide by 18USC930 and that is the law that secificly defines pocket knives with blades under 2.5" as not being "dangerous or deadly weapons" which are forbidden to be carried in a federal building.
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Hugh,
In my opinion, it's GSA that causes the problem. I've been to Federal buildings where there are signs posted that state that anything sharp fits the definition of a dangerous weapon and then cite GSA's regulation, 41 CFR § 102-74.440 in support of that position.

The full text of 41 CFR § 102-74.440 is as follows: "Federal law prohibits the possession of firearms or other dangerous weapons in Federal facilities and Federal court facilities by all persons not specifically authorized by 18 U.S.C. 930.Violators will be subject to fine and/or imprisonment for periods up to five (5) years.") Since the regulation specifically references 18 USC § 930, 2.5" pocketknives are clearly OK, but you won't win the argument with the guards. I know, I've tried and then walked three blocks back to my car to put my knife in the glove box.

I suppose, from another perspective, that even if legal to carry, both GSA and whatever agency SHS works for, are still within their rights to administratively ban all knives (except, of course, the big kitchen knives in the lunch room :jerkit: ).
 
It is beyond me how in the Hell an agency can have a regulation that cites 18USC930 but ignores the quite specific language in it. What they are doing is ignoring the federal law. That is why I carry a copy of 18USC930 with me when I go to work every day, just in case.
 
FullerH said:
We haven't had a DC Area Knife Knuts Luncheon in quite a long time, several years in fact. We now seem to have a fairly good number of active members in the general Washington, DC area and I was wondering if you all would like to get together for a lunch. We could use the Capitol City Brewing Company Restaurant in the old Main Post Office Building next door to Union Station and the Union Station Metro Stop. But that is only a suggestion. Is thare any interest?
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Just let me know when and where.

Kref
 
I'm in Hugh, but in regards to the rules. I can show the guards in my building that rule, but then they will hold me in the lobby, contact the FPS, the county police and my director. I would then possibly have to pay a fine, and be blacklisted, unofficially, at work. That stands for everyone.

And the guards in my building are good men and women, who are not on power trips, but follow the rules to the letter.
 
With only the four of us, perhaps we could meet at the Cafe Berlin in the 300 block of Massachusetts Ave., NE or at the Mexican restaurant next door. I prefer German food, myself.
 
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