Any literary historians here? Kind of an unusual thing I found...

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I figured there is such a mixture of people with different backgrounds and knowledge that come on here that maybe someone could tell me a little about this and if it is worth anything. If it isn't, it is still intriguing to me personally and I intend to keep it...

Quick background: The man who died in my house before I moved in was named John Paul Hudson (aka John Francis Hunter - his pen name.) He was locally (regionally?) famous, a former male model, author/playwright, part-time writer for TIME magazine, and editor of some gay magazine, plus an obvious gay-rights activist.

One of the few things left in the house when I moved in were some old books. Inside one of the books I found a clear plastic protective folder containing the following: some kind of "handbook", apparently for some lecture, plus a personal note to John Paul from someone named Basil Peter Keko, dated March 21, 1986. The handbook thingy was apparently published in 1854.

The note, typed, reads (quoted word-for-word as best I can type it):

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Basil Peter Keko March 21, 1986 TIME INCORPORATED

Dear J.P.

Thank you for mentioning me in such a good light in your letter to Jan Wallman. And for making an excuse for me for not being at her benefit. She should treasure your letter and your friendship.

This is also to wish you a very

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

At one point in "Lost Horizon", Mr. Chang turns to Robert Conway and says: "come, let me show you some of our rare treasures..."

I did have the best intentions of making a nice cover for this rare treasure, but may never get around to it in this lifetime (not to say I won't). So, I give it to you on this March 21st 1986, with the knowledge that you will keep it in the highest esteem among your souvenirs. (See page 35.)

Be well,
[hand-signed "Basil"]
Basil

[A handwritten note - the "P.S." part follows:]

P.S. Handle carefully - it was printed in 1854.

TIME INC. Time and Life Building Rockefeller Center, New York 10020
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The booklet states that the cost of admission is one shilling. The cover reads[and I'm not bothering to change the font size in between the words, so just use your imagination]:

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HAND-BOOK
TO THE
GRAND MOVING DIORAMA
OF
CONSTANTINOPLE,
INCLUDING
THE DARDANELLES,
AND
THE BOSPHORUS
UP THE THE ENTRANCE OF
THE BLACK SEA,
WHICH IS
NOW OPEN,
IN THE
NEW ROOM, AT THE EGYPTIAN HALL.
...
BY
ALBERT SMITH
...
TO BE HAD IN THE ROOM, AT THE BOX OFFICE,
AND AT
CHAPPELL'S MUSICAL LIBRARY, 50, NEW BOND STREET.
...
"NASSAU STEAM PRESS" - W.S. JOHNSON, 60, ST MARTIN'S LANE, CHARING CROSS.
----------------------------------------------------------

Does anyone recognize any of that? Other than the TIME stuff...

Just some late night stuff to occupy my mind, lol...

~ashes
 
George Washington (yes, THAT George Washington) would often take the pen name you speak of--while under the influence of Chinese opium--and invent all sorts of strange identities.

He was not gay, so I've read, but he was strangely creative while under the influence of the "Oriental rag-weed of oblivion."

You might have stumbled across some history in your current dwelling. I suggest a seance in the house to determine what exactly is going on.

The birthday thing you mention makes sense. George Washington was executed on his 90th birthday via guillotine. It was one of the darker days in American history.
 
komondor said:
George Washington (yes, THAT George Washington) would often take the pen name you speak of--while under the influence of Chinese opium--and invent all sorts of strange identities.

He was not gay, so I've read, but he was strangely creative while under the influence of the "Oriental rag-weed of oblivion."

You might have stumbled across some history in your current dwelling. I suggest a seance in the house to determine what exactly is going on.

The birthday thing you mention makes sense. George Washington was executed on his 90th birthday via guillotine. It was one of the darker days in American history.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, I have no idea about it either.

Maybe you could check with antiques stores or something, maybe the library.
 
Morning Ashes, :) just checked with Yahoos search engine under his writers name and found him very quickly. Isn't this interesting he lived in your home at one time. Elvis lived in mine. :D
 
just checked with Yahoos search engine under his writers name and found him very quickly.

That is probably the best way to go.

Pull together a brief information package on who John Francis Hunter was, including a listing of some of his better known published works (eg The Lost Commandment -ISBN 1401030297) and affiliations, and then toss the story and the documents on EBAY. You can list it as "Documents Author's notes"

n2s
 
You have in your hand the Program to the state of the art in entertainment during the early 19th Century. Starting around 1820 Diorama and Panorama where very fashionable entertainments. They consisted of large paintings (and later retouched photos) of hstorical events or views. A journey through history or a trip through Europe, that type of thing.. They where displayed in special built halls where either the art or the audience moved to give the effect of being there. The producer of the event you have the program for, Albert Smith (1816-1860), is of some renound as his productions where very popular, running as long as six years. He was also an author and published several literary magazines. His "The Ascent of Mont Blanc " retelling his own climb of the mountain was most notable and encluded a small Chalet wih a pool and garden as part of the exhibt. Your program is somewhat scarce as these where often discarded as are modern theater bills. I have no idea on value. Ebay would be one way to find out. I also cannot comment on the tie in with the modern author/activist. I can check with a friend who collects 19th century theatrical items on a value range if you would like.

Patrick Hayes
Med. Drama
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
:rolleyes:

Yeah, I have no idea about it either.

Maybe you could check with antiques stores or something, maybe the library.

Is anyone else insulted when someone uses the "eye-roll" symbol preceeding their response? :rolleyes: It always makes me just not want to even bother reading the rest of their response. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Cindy, are you serious about Elvis?!

Yes, I have searched him online and found a lot of stuff too. Also (I live in a pretty small town) when I'm trying to give people directions to my house, they usually stop me and say, "Do you mean J.P. Hudson's old house?!" It's funny. It's not a big expensive place or anything, but it's in a nice area and it was his retirement/vacation home. His other place was in Manhatten.

I've gotten a lot of info on John Paul from people here who knew him, but I don't recognize the other names in that thing I found, or what it is from exactly. ???

~ashes
 
Ashes said:
I've gotten a lot of info on John Paul from people here who knew him, but I don't recognize the other names in that thing I found, or what it is from exactly. ???

~ashes

Our posts must have crossed in the mail.
LOL
 
SPHayes said:
Our posts must have crossed in the mail.
LOL


yes, apparently! Lol...

How did you know all that? What else do you know? (I'm gonna pick your brain now... ;) )

Please email me if you have any more info, if it isn't a hassle. :) Thanks a lot!

~ashes
 
Before the wife and kids and real life came along and I had to get a "real job", I was a scene designer and propmaster. I have a BA and a Masters in Drama with a concentration on technical theater. I did some research on diorama for the scene design of a show I worked on. Was considering using one for a carriage ride scene. Turned out to be to much work for a short scene. If the handbook is not too fragile could you send scans. My advisor from grad school is very into 19th century entertainments and can most likely provide lots of info. I know the first words out of his mouth will be "well, I would need to see it". I checked online a found a few examples of other Smith programs for sale. One was for 70 pounds and the other 120 euro, so a rough start would be $150 yours could be worth more or less depending on condtition and scarcity. That is with out the provence tying it to John Paul Hudson. That may well increase the value depending on the market for his stuff.

A few links
http://billdouglas.ex.ac.uk/eve/searchperson2.asp?surname=Smith&forenames=Albert

http://www.centres.ex.ac.uk/bill.douglas/collection/panorama/panorama.html

Edited to add,
The JPH connection may not add much. a signed first edition of one of his books with a hand endorsed check is only $30
http://www.eximiousbooks.com/cgi-bin/exb455/001137.html
Patrick
 
Cindy, thanks for the link, but I have already seen it, along with a few other ones. I have googled "John Paul Hudson, Honesdale, Pennsylvania" which has yielded quite a few results. :)

SPHayes, thanks again for your info, and I will try to scan it sometimes next week, if our scanner at work is working again; maybe that would help? If I do I will post the pic.

~ashes
 
Ashes said:
Is anyone else insulted when someone uses the "eye-roll" symbol preceeding their response? :rolleyes: It always makes me just not want to even bother reading the rest of their response. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I wasnt rolling the eyes at your post, I was indicating the "quoted" moronic jibber-jabber from komondor. So dont feel insulted.
Should I feel insulted that you just gave three eye rolls? :D
Or maybe you think komondor had a valid point?
 
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