Any reasons not to move?

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We are thinking of getting our butts out of SoCal finally. My wifes corp office is in Pheonix (not my favorite place but its not SoCal). So we could easily transfer over without any problems.

The +s

No pay cuts
Half again bigger house for $600 less per month
cheaper everything
CCWs :D

The -s

the heat
the move


So any other reasons not to move? What ya folks think?
 
My wife and I are in the midst of a major move. It ain't easy but I think it's definetly worth the effort.

We've lived in New Jersey all our lives and decided that the future wasn't here. My in-laws are in their 80s and one would certainly end up with us eventually. We could afford a home in NJ but like So Ca the taxes and home prices are out of control. We were able to buy a home in Utah with an apartment for my in-laws for 1/2 what it would cost here.

I think if you can swing it there is no downside. People in Utah told me it takes one Summer to adjust to the heat. We're in the desert and I saw 109 when I was there in July. No humidity really does make a difference. Try NJ with 90 degrees, 100 % humidity, I'll take Utah heat.

The physical move has been a bitch. We're just about packed and the movers are coming Monday. Boxing everything and cleaning out has been monumental. My wife is ready for a breakdown, she's been packing our house and the in-laws house.

We've had to sell two homes, furniture and a car and dealing with the public has worn me out. I'm a salesman for a living but the flakes that come out when your forced to sell are very trying. You may not have that issue but boy do I have stories.

I wish you alot of luck if you decide to go. Just the savings alone should make it well worth it. The saved money can go to your future and that is just as important as today.

Win
 
Moving is always a challenge, but dont let that stop you. With the pluses that you have mentioned, you have pretty good incentive to go for it.
 
The moves are always hard. If I could insure I had an income if I left here, I'd be gone... ;)
Get organized, make sure you know what is in every box, so when you get there, you'll know which ones go where, and which ones should be opened first.
As for the heat... Air conditioning... :D
R.W., what are you making for knives these days?

Howie
 
If it's a job transfer, then all expenses associated with the move are tax-deductible.

And, if it's a job transfer, maybe her company will pay for professional movers. These guys make everything easy. They wrap up that 9/10ths-used-up sliver of soap in the bathroom nice and carefull so it won't get damaged, assign it a number so it won't get lost, and when you arrive in your new place, there it is waiting for you.
 
Gollnick said:
And, if it's a job transfer, maybe her company will pay for professional movers. These guys make everything easy. They wrap up that 9/10ths-used-up sliver of soap in the bathroom nice and carefull so it won't get damaged, assign it a number so it won't get lost, and when you arrive in your new place, there it is waiting for you.
Professional movers are usually great guys, friendly and helpful. And some of them will happily steal your most valuable possessions, either as they're packing, or later at the warehouse. I speak from experience. Do yourself a favor and pack up your valuables yourself and bring 'em with you.
 
I don't know if I'd want to move out of a state that has a Governor who can kick the asses of all the other state Governors...Arnold isn't a "girly-man".:D.

...But on the other hand, it might be a good thing to get out of the Republic of Kalifornication...:D.
 
One summer we went to visit our daughter who lives in Phoenix in July. When we came back to Tulsa Oklahoma it was hotter here than it was in Phoenix.:rolleyes:
And we have to deal with higher humidity so that makes it even worse.:grumpy:

I lived in Banning and Yucaipa in So Cal from '74 until '80 and the heat there was just as miserable as any heat I've ever been in in Phoenix.
The nice thing is that in Phoenix the evenings generally cool down really nice and you can really enjoy being outside.
I wouldn't let my shirtail hit my arse if I had a choice like you do!
Best of luck whatever you decide! :D
 
I can't address Phoenix, but I'm out of SoCal since 1999. My family and I moved to Virginia, a suberb of Washington DC. I've never regretted it.

I was so tired of Los Angeles, traffic, smog and all the rest. We have a lot of traffic here but I like the change and am glad we made it.

My kids like it here too.
 
Yvsa said:
One summer we went to visit our daughter who lives in Phoenix in July. When we came back to Tulsa Oklahoma it was hotter here than it was in Phoenix.:rolleyes:
And we have to deal with higher humidity so that makes it even worse.:grumpy:

I lived in Banning and Yucaipa in So Cal from '74 until '80 and the heat there was just as miserable as any heat I've ever been in in Phoenix.
The nice thing is that in Phoenix the evenings generally cool down really nice and you can really enjoy being outside.
I wouldn't let my shirtail hit my arse if I had a choice like you do!
Best of luck whatever you decide! :D

It definitely can get to 105+ in Tulsa, as well as -2. Been there and done that.
 
I'm off to Houston myself.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2884376#post2884376

The plan is; I'll be going down alone and staying in a hotel close to the office. Once I get a lay of the land I'll start looking for an apartment. My wife is staying in New York, so I'm flying up to be with her on her birthday in April. By summer it'll be time for my wife to come down and see if she likes Houston. If she does, we'll both fly home together and complete our move. We won't have to move much because I told her she could buy everything new in her new house. I also told her that she can retire or work part-time if she prefers and keep whatever she earns.

I've been looking to get out of NY for a long time.
The simple fact is that I have an opportunity in Texas that I just couldn't pass up. I'm looking forward to start a new chapter in my life.
 
threads on TheHighRoad (gun fourms) about immigration problems in Az. Some friends of mine just moved to Scottsdale & like it enough, but it's not if you'll have a problem with illegals, but when. That's probably the worst of living there; I'm sure you'll adjust to the heat after living in the inland empire. AZ has managed to stave off alot of the liberal thrusts to change things. Phoenix is a booming area and with that it's never too late to buy a house & make some equity dough. Good luck & pray about whatever you decide.
 
This isn't a pro or a con - just a consideration. Consider the taxes you will pay in your new state compared to the old state - this may influence you to move sooner...or later... :)
 
Gollnick said:
If it's a job transfer, then all expenses associated with the move are tax-deductible.

And, if it's a job transfer, maybe her company will pay for professional movers. These guys make everything easy. They wrap up that 9/10ths-used-up sliver of soap in the bathroom nice and carefull so it won't get damaged, assign it a number so it won't get lost, and when you arrive in your new place, there it is waiting for you.

I have done a couple of moves this way, it is so much easier. I like SoCal, but who can afford it?? I have had a couple of chances to go back, and I can't bring myself to. Phoenix is a cool town, too. I say, "GOFORIT"!!
 
I'd say it depends on your interests. I love snowboarding, the beach, hiking, and a whole lotta other things that southern California provides within short driving distance, so despite the sucky attitude toward self-defense, it's hard for me to justify a move. If you've already listed the big ones for yourself, then I say go for it!
 
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