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Peegee

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Hi there

I love knifes (and axes) and i own quiet a few of them. I keep them well and I'm used to maintain (sharpening and oiling) them...

As I'm often in my garden and in the woods, I fell in love with the idea of getting a Khukuri :-D. After some research, it was clear it should be from Kailash. I narrowed it down to 4 different types (2 traditional, 2 modern):

- dui chirra
- ANGKHOLA EK CHIRRA
- the scourge
- SCOURGE ANNIVERSARY

--> All with 13" and Rosewood and Full tang!

As mentioned above, I'll use it:
- in my (huge) garden for maintaining bushes and trees
- bushcrafting (chopping, batoning, but also wood carving. e.g. arrow bows and similar)

Maybe you can give me a hint, which one is the best for this purpose. I'm a little bit confused becouse I can not try them out (balance, grind tpe, etc). So maybe someone here can give me a hint? Or are the differences smal an it is just a matter of personal preference?

Thanks and regards!

Peegee
 
For the role you envision, the Ek Chirra, with a performance grind, would be my pick. If a LOT of heavy wood work was in the cards, then I would think the Scourge Anniversary with a standard grind would be a better choice.
But, that's just my take!


Welcome to Blade Forums!!
 
I'd also consider the Pensioner; stick tangs aren't weak. Stacked leather is probably the nicest handle material.

I wouldn't bother with scourge when the scourge anniversary exists
 
justjed said:
Welcome to Blade Forums!!
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Thanks for the welcome 🙃

And thank you both for your Input

So the new list would be (in order of optical preference):
- Scourge Anniversary with a standard performance grind (i have not a LOT of wood, therefore performance)
- Ek Chirra with performance grind (cheapest oft these three)
- the pensioner (with performance grind) and stacked leather (most expensive of these three with my options)

Thanks and regards
 
Consider adding a Cursive to your order for the smaller/carving tasks. It's relatively cheap when you are paying for the shipping anyways.
Bhura blade is about the same size as Cursive blade, and perhaps feels better in the hand... But Cursive would lay flat well in a Scourge Anniversary western sheath, if you ask them to add a slot for the Cursive on that sheath. (Assuming you go for the Scourge Anniversary or western sheath for your other options.)
 
Peegee said:
Honestly, I have three of them already in my cart (one for me, others for gifts) 🙃
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:) I did the same thing when I ordered from Kailash last year. One Bhura for me to play with, a Cursive and a Bhura to gift to some people, and an extra Bhura to... uh... gift to someone in the future, maybe.
 
Peegee said:
Did you order them with performance grind?
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My personal Bhura, I did order performance grind.
I highly doubt you would have problems if you go with perf grind based on my limited look at what I ordered. But that was the only one I ordered perf.
Everything else I ordered (including a couple normal sized khukuris) was with standard grind.
My reasoning was that perf grind would be most useful to me on a small knife and most of the gifts would not really be used a lot anyways.
I also assumed it would be easier for me to adjust a standard grind towards a perf grind than the reverse due to the ~appleseed edge profile.

To me, cutting with the Bhura feels similar to the little scandi grind Morakniv basic and robust knives that I have. The robust is closer to the thickness of the Bhura blade, but I vaguely think the Bhura felt like it had less resistance than the robust. Not a direct, recent comparison, just from memory.

I might be able to borrow the Cursive gift back to look at it, but my recollection is that the Cursive blade is very, very similar to Bhura blade.
 
Thanks a lot! Your answers are really a great help. SO I go with the performance grind :)

So, my order looks like this:
- Scourge Anniversary with performance grind and rosewood handle
- 3x CURSIVE EDC with brown leather, copper and the satin performance grind

That will be hard weeks...

Edit: order is placed :cool:
 
Sorry for getting to this so late!
I've been preparing for a trip to Nepal so have been very busy.
It's great to see that the community has been a huge help. The scourge anniversary is a great hard working chopper and I'm sure you'll love it.
If during the wait you're considering a traditional khukuri also I think you could really benefit from a smaller and more nimble blade as well. The work you're describing is quite light and are situations where having a more controllable blade is key to fun and performance moreso than chopping power. If so then consider something in the 9-11" range. 9"Mini, 9.5 or 11.5 HSI and 9" or 11"Falo.
Best of luck managing your sanity during the wait!
If you have any questions or concerns don't hesitate to reach out.
Take care,
Andrew and the team at Kailash.
 
Kailash Blades said:
If during the wait you're considering a traditional khukuri also I think you could really benefit from a smaller and more nimble blade as well. The work you're describing is quite light and are situations where having a more controllable blade is key to fun and performance moreso than chopping power. If so then consider something in the 9-11" range. 9"Mini, 9.5 or 11.5 HSI and 9" or 11"Falo
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To avoid misunderstandings: you mean on top of the order or instead of the scourge anniversary (asking because I already felt in love with this one). For an additional order, I really would need a discount 😁. But the mini in 9" looks also nice...
 
Is it safe to say the the performance grind is more for "cutting" and the standard is more for "hacking"?

Also, what angle is each grind?
 
Peegee said:
To avoid misunderstandings: you mean on top of the order or instead of the scourge anniversary (asking because I already felt in love with this one). For an additional order, I really would need a discount 😁. But the mini in 9" looks also nice...
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Haha well we can swap things out if you'd like- all the way until forging starts. You'll love the anniversary, don't you worry.

Sardonic 6 said:
Is it safe to say the the performance grind is more for "cutting" and the standard is more for "hacking"?

Also, what angle is each grind?
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The performance grind is well suited for chopping and hacking any wood and will hold up no worries. It's not built with extra beef to handle as many mistakes and misuse though so best to avoid nails, overswings into roots and heavy prying with the grind. As these blades are hand ground with all sorts of convexity and concavity the team doesn't run off angles. Rather they build the blade with the maximum task load in mind that's described on our grind types and warranties page. For the most part this leads to a blade with more meat behind the edge and a slightly beefier grind behind that rather than a change of angle.

Take care,
Andrew and the team at Kailash
 
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