Anybody familiar with this pistol?

It is a .32. Yes I have heard of Guardians. Lukewarm. Better is a pistol in .380, but even better is remembering such arms are marginal in the best of situations.
 
superc said:
even better is remembering such arms are marginal in the best of situations.
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As I often point out, the .22 (or .32) you have with you will do you a lot more good than the .45 you left at home because it was to big or heavy to carry. If you are willing to carry a full-sized gun all the time, then that's great and I would encourage you to do so; no doubt about it, it's better. But, I hear a lot of guys boast, "You won't find me dead carrying a .32." And that's probably true; we'll find you dead carrying nothing at all and your .50DE at home in the safe.
 
I picked up one of the .32's years ago and it did fine. they put it out in some mutant caliber and i've read where it had some problems. an airweight .38 would be a better choice for cc. my .02
 
I have one. It' reliable after the mammoth trigger pull.
 
Joe, I like the NAA mini-revolvers for certain uses, but, being single action, they are just a little slower to get into action. Personally, I like .32 caliber arms, but that's just me. I believe there is little if any real world difference in terminal effectiveness between a .32 ACP and a .380 ACP when fired from comparable barrel lengths. The very best .32 I own is a Walther PP, but it's a bit bigger than the usual tiny pocket pistols we carry now. As good as the PP is my Beretta .32 Tomcat, a superb little pocket gun. It is, however, a little larger and chunkier than the smallest of the .32 autos. I have a itty-bitty .32 Kel-Tec in my shorts pocket around the house, but I haven't really become attached to it yet. The jury is still out on that on. It's super thin and super light, though, and dirt simple to operate. Rugers new little plastic frame baby .380 looks like the best of the breed so far, but I'll wait to be sure the bugs are out of it before I get one.
 
The pistol linked to isn't chambered for .32 ACP but rather for a different round, the .32 NAA. That round is designed by CorBon and is a .380 case necked down with a .32 bullet, similar to a .357 SIG or .400 CorBon.

A quick look at CorBon's site shows that they only make one JHP and Glasers in that caliber. The JHP uses the same weight bullet as the standard .32 ACP but has more velocity (100 FPS more) so therefore more energy, 176ftlbs to 146. The Glaser for some reason has higher velocity difference (150 FPS) with the same bullet weight so it has a larger gap, 191ftlbs to 148.

Compared to .380 specs the .32 NAA has less energy. It seems to me like it's an answer to a question that didn't exist.

Robert H said:
I have one. It' reliable after the mammoth trigger pull.
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I noticed that right off the bat. 10lbs? :eek:
 
Those old enough will remember the Jim Croce song, "Bad Bad Leroy Brown", particularly the lines that went, "He had a 32 gun in his pocket for fun, He had a razor in his shoe". I suspect old leroy would have fit in rather well in this forum.
 
Well it isn't a .32 ACP it is the .32 NAA which is supposed to have more punch. It is fairly new so if you tried a "32" years ago, it was not this cartridge.

The 32NAA is a new cartridge/firearm 'system' designed and developed by the partnership of North American Arms and Cor-Bon Ammunition.

In essence, the cartridge is based on a 380 case, which is necked-down to hold a smaller 32 bullet. The benefit is a remarkable gain in ballistic performance (below).

The .32NAA Guardian pistol is designed around this cartridge. This gun is almost identical to .380 ACP Guardian, different only in the chamber and the size of the bore. The cartridge is manufactured by Cor-Bon, a well-recognized industry leader in the development of high-performance ammunition.

To summarize, the load delivers in excess of 1222 f.p.s. velocity to a 60 grain proprietary bullet from Hornady. This generates 199 ft. lbs of energy, specifically from the 2.5" Guardian barrel (1453 f.p.s. & 287 ft. lbs from a 4" test barrel).

According to industry expert Ed Sanow, the 32NAA:Produces more velocity, more energy and more stopping power than any conventional jacketed lead hollow point (JHP) 32 ACP, 380 ACP or 380 ACP (+P) with 15% less recoil (Power Factor) than the (+P),

Penetrates 8.3" of Gelatin after passing through four (4) layers of denim, expanding to a .55" mushroom with a retained weight of 100%,

Has a Fuller Index of 62% One-Shot Stops, compared to (for example) the 380 ACP Federal 90gr. Hydra-Shok (53%).
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I was present for testing of the .32NAA round into 10% Vyse gelatin with 4 layers of denim.

Corbon DPX
Average muzzle velocity: 1178
Average penetration: 8.5 inches
Average expansion: .47 caliber
Stout recoil and muzzle flash

Glaser Safety Slug
Average muzzle velocity: 1232
Average penetration: 6.4 inches
Average expansion: fragmented

I don't recommend anything this small for carry but it is better to have this gun in your pocket than the .45 you left at home. I have carried .32s in the past but with todays small 9mms I prefer the lager caliber. My main pocket gun is a Kel-Tec PF-9 these days.
 
I am simply fascinated by cute little pistols, especially since you could use even the most diminutive one to save your ass :D

Now, these offer more substantial calibers, that's for sure, but is it difficult to fire them accurately, even at "across the room" ranges? Anybody?

http://www.bondarms.com/ifirearms.php
 
The only derringer I would consider carrying is the old American Derringer Model 1 I owned in .223. Accuracy was not great, the bullet tumbled right out if the barrel but was decent for up to 7 yards away. The muzzle blast however would put anyone closer than 10 yards out of business. I shot it at night and it was a handheld flame thrower. At the very least it will make anyone it is shot at crap their pants.
 
i like the NAA but i like the kel tec P32 better, its lighter/thinner/and best of all a lot cheaper.

imho the .32 is pretty close to a .380, not a lot of diffrence, and the .32s seem to be more reliable than the .380 in the mini autos,

i have had really good luck with my P32, its been 100% reliable so far and is accurate enough once ya get used to the sights, i added a large red shotgun bead to the front of my P32 and it helped a lot, they dont have much of a front sight from the factory.

the NAA and seecamp are both good, albeit a lot higher $$ pistols than the keltecs, i have only a little experience with the NAA but my neighbor has a seecamp .32 and i have shot it quite a bit, a great little pistol, i dont know that its any better than a keltec though, my neighbor really likes his, he has edc'd it for 10 yrs now.
 
The NAA is a pretty direct copy of the Seecamp, saying it is based on it is being generous to patent laws. NAA changed just enough things (sights, mag release location slightly) to get past the Seecamp patents. It is marginally larger than the Seecamp as well. I carried a Seecamp for many years till I realized I could get enough money out of it to by a Kel-Tec P32 and have enough left over to buy a nice custom folder. I sold the Seecamp and carried the P-32 for about 8 years. I now carry a Kel-Tec PF-9 for a pocket gun to serve as a BUG to the 325PD and Detective Special.
 
I carried one of the NAA .32's for a while, but not the .32 NAA caliber. The big things I noticed were a very long heavy trigger pull, and very good corrosion resistance. One of the few stainless guns I could carry without it rusting on me after 2 hours of pocket time. I moved away from the NAA and carried the .32 and the .380 Kel-Tec for a while, then I got a Kahr PM9 and never looked back....
 
imho its pretty hard to beat a kahr PM9 for edc, its plenty small, plenty light, plenty accurate, plenty reliable, plenty of power, easy to edc, whats not to like lol?
 
I have carried the Guardian .32 as my primary weapon for many years. (Don't ask me about my day job.) Obviously, it is not a .45/.40/.357 or even a .380. That said, it fits very nicely in a wallet holster, is very accurate, and very dependable. It is a well regarded firearm amongst many in the "tactical training" community. I have used it during many sessions and in many conditions. As with any firearm, shot placement is crutial and I certainly don't feel underarmed carrying it. Front sight, press......
 
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