Anybody got user experience with new models 8Cr13MoV ?

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DocJD

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I've noticed there are a lot of these now becoming available .

I'm curious about the quality , consistency , and performance of this steel / HT on the new issue models from Cold Steel .

At best , I could hope for something near the old AUS8A . I never had much to complain about that on the older CS models .
 
Little bit of a proof test here , but I'd like to see it pushed a tad further :

 
been using a sr1 lite tanto folder in 8cr13mov. from my use and sharpening of it...... seems similar to spydercos. so not bad at all.

its not a favorite steel but I dont shy away from it.
 
I should add i cut up some sugar cane with it last night. that is a harsh cutting task on a folder. didnt roll or chip from that work. it wasnt a great choice due to the thickness of the blade and geometry. but did the work okay.
 
8cr is just about fine for budget folders and small fixed blades, but I wouldn’t want to see it on big blades. There’s a vid on YouTube about an 8cr Schrade big blade failing. Not a correct application of the steel.
 
It’s super easy to sharpen, and seems to shed a burr quick.

Attracts corrosion.

I carried a Kershaw Clash for a year many years ago. It worked pretty decent as a work knife beater.

At this point in my life I don’t buy anything in this steel type. It doesn’t really do anything great.

Knowing Cold Steel, the heat treat is probably pretty good. Although with all changes the company is going through who knows?
 
I am rather surprised that Taiwan made Cold Steel models would use 8cr13mov when they've been using Aus8 and recently even VG10 in their SM models. Can only imagine it to be a cost lowering decision.
 
Maybe the new CS will go the other way with their steel choices. It is used though in some less costly knives that they manufacturer. Those SR1 lights look pretty nice and they are in that steel. Jimislash did a little testing stabbing into wood and prying an such and it held up well it seemed. Hopefully they have a really good heat treat going with this steel.
 
I tried a different vendor than I normally use because they had what looked like the new C.S. line up. No "Coming Soon" etc banners. Then after a week of no shipping notices on my phone, something wasn't right. I went on their site and left a message, a polite message, requesting when my order would ship. It had been 5 business days without a peep, I'm used to next day notices, and I actually ordered on the Saturday before that week. I got a reply that the order should be shipped in 10-20 business days. So after a week it would be another two weeks to a month. Obviously they do not have the stock in, and I got their best guess of their own stock arrival. I am going through Paypal now to get my hundred bux back.........................I got a Spyderco Resilience years ago (8cr). I clipped it into the felt pack of my winter boot. A humid salty noxious smelling hell hole if there ever was one.:D Of course the next day it was rust mottled. I took slightly better care of it since then and it's been fine.
 
upnorth said:
A humid salty noxious smelling hell hole if there ever was one.:D Of course the next day it was rust mottled. I took slightly better care of it since then and it's been fine.
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:p LMAO !

Yeah , knives and other metal carried close to a body can be exposed to a pretty nasty corrosive environment , as you so well described . ;)
 
Ya JD, I'm actually surprised that these knife steels are as forgiving as they are. Most of my cutting tools are lower to mid range steel, and get moderate maintenance. Some of my carbon Mora's look like a rats arse....... sometimes. It's also likely that having a fair bit of stainless or semi stainless has helped me to keep rust at bay.
 
upnorth said:
Ya JD, I'm actually surprised that these knife steels are as forgiving as they are. Most of my cutting tools are lower to mid range steel, and get moderate maintenance. Some of my carbon Mora's look like a rats arse....... sometimes. It's also likely that having a fair bit of stainless or semi stainless has helped me to keep rust at bay.
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To a lot of us old timers , the whole rust-phobia thing is kinda silly . I've got tons of 40 , 50 or more years old , carbon steel tools that have a "special coating" of patina rust , oil and grease , and various sorts of dirt and debris .

Many are outdoor tools for gardening , ditch digging , wood cutting and clearing , manure and hay moving , etc .

These tools have had minimal care and maintenance ,and much hard use , but are still fully functional ...although not pretty !

I'm not saying I don't appreciate stainless . Very nice for many applications . Lower maintenance and stays looking nice and shiny .
 
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