Anybody live in Bunkertown ?

[Kevin the grey]

I,m not prying into home defense strategies . I,m just wondering if there are those among us who have to be more selective in who we invite over . I,ll start off by saying all I have is a few walking staves , a Shilelagh and various braided rope dog leashes and chains by the front door . Nothing out of the ordinairy except perhaps in how numerous they are . My hallway however has enough bows in it to supply a small firing line . There are also half a dozen bow staves hanging to dry . Definitely out of the ordinairy but still quaint enough in the eyes of the masses to qualify as eccentric and non threatening . Along the hallway is stacked enough wood for 500 arrows on top of a work bench . On top of that are arrow drying racks and assorted archery related projects I am working on . Oh also a few knife blades I have rescued from humiliation to make arrow heads and short skinners . Mayhaps some would look askance at that .Master bedroom(thats a laugh) has another half dozen bows lying about and wood for a couple more . No bed as of late and space for a projected workbench .
Oops forgot to mention .About four hundred arrows and broken arrows in half a dozen quivers plus milk crates, cardboard tubes and sundry other receptacles . This might make some people think twice .

My 15 inch B:A:S: is hanging discreetly by its belt on the closet door .
No visible rifles or handguns in cabinets . Gun laws forbid any visible firearms . In truth it is my preference as some of the landlords work crew and some of the locals look more at home in a dark alley than in my residence !

I have a couple of animal archery targets as Art on the walls and while not to everyones taste don,t really look like targets to the unintiated .( I mean like who would make a target out of the picture of a deer ? L:O:L)

I always wanted a finger tip gunsafe next to my bed . Unfortunately a safe big enough to fit the Dan Wesson is out of my league .

Any of you guys live in a situation where you can be more open in your pursuits ? I,m not talking cannon outside the front door ! (Who am I kidding ? Any pics of door cannon would be most appreciated ! )

 

[Kismet]

Uhhh...lemme see...

Right now there are three rifles leaning against the clothes on the chair near the sewing machine (small ring mauser .308, Springfield 84C .22, and Remington Nylon 66); two .22s...no, check that, one single shot .22 and a single shot 12 gauge shotgun by the door, er...a single shot .20 gauge by the bed (I won't ever need it, but wouldn't I feel foolish if I had all these toys and didn't have one when I wanted it?), on the stairwell going upstairs is the Ithaca 37 Police Special Deerslayer in 12 gauge, and the two doubles--12 and 20 gauge.

(Edit: only the 20 gauge by the bed is loaded.)

But in fairness, it is the end of the hunting seasons here in Wisconsin--rabbit ended Feb. 28th and I have a permit to shoot another deer until Mar. 31--and the guns need one last cleaning and greasing before getting stored for a while.

A couple of weeks ago, the DNR enforcement officer stopped by for coffee. All these guns were out. She didn't even blink. We talked about moving North in Wisconsin, the heavy snows, the different local culture, and the availability of jobs and the cost of houses. She and her husband may be considering it, now that their kids are grown. Guns are tools here, not weapons.

Oh, there's walking sticks by the doors.

And, of course, Young Bert, the not-right dog.

Doesn't sound like Canada, eh?



Be well and safe.

 

[munk]

A well liked and now departed forumite, Pappy, used to have khuks arranged strategically on his property. He always wanted relative quick access to a weapon should human hyenas come to call, or a poisenious snake. I used to get a kick out of Pappy's description of his hiding places.

Rusty used to have backup weapons everywhere.

My desk has khuks in, on and under it. There's a Delta Elite upstair by my bed. The kids can't rack the stiff 10mm slide so it's a good choice. I'd have a revolver out otherwise.
There is a sirupate sitting in my wife's truck at all times. Also another blade by my bed doing honor guard. My favorite HI blades get a tour of duty there every once in awhile.

When we hike we take a khuk. Almost always now. It's big thrill for the kindergartner to know he has a 7" khuk in his back pack. (we probably couldn't get to it in time, but I don't want him to focus on that and realize it's true.) I have a khuk on a belt at my side.

munk

 

[etp777]

Being in an apartment, I keep the guns locked away. Though I do have ammo cans/crates/milk crates visible around. Khuks, folding knives, camp knives(bought and made), escrima sticks, big copper bus bars I keep as weapon, etc, around the apartment though. Course, my apartment is strange in genearl. 50+ gallons of drinking water on shelves in one room, 100+ bottles of wine in other room, etc. Really need a house so I can put all this stuff in a room/the garage and keep those doors closed.

 

[raghorn]

Most of my knives and rifles stay put away when not in use, but I do keep a 20 gauge in the bedroom and a Belgian Hi-Power on my hip most of the time.

My three ferocious dogs would probably hand over the silver if asked politely.

 

[DannyinJapan]

i have a hook on the wall above my computer. i hang my khukuris up there, one at a time. I rotate them every month or so. This month the crescent moon sirupati is up there. last month it was my UB salyan.
I have an iron truncheon and a surefire flashlight by my bed.
the rest of the weapons are in the closet.

when I lived in america, I kept an automatic (whichever one I had at the time) in a desk drawer next to the bed. No big surprise there. I did also keep a short sword (ninja to) next to my bedroom door which everyone knew about. My mother would sometimes get it when she heard noises or some unlikely visitor was at the door. Imagine my mama greeting you with a ninja sword in her hands.
It always made us laugh, but that particular sword (carbon steel, not stainless) just happened to be razor sharp (18 inch blade). You wouldnt need any skill to hurt or kill someone with that thing...

I gave her a Charter Arms 44 special bulldog a year ago and she loved it. (aluminum frame, pachmayr grips) it is light and comfy and the noise and recoil are very light. Still, she asked me where the ninja sword was in an email later, I guess she wanted to know where it was even though she had that 44 special.
I guess its just a matter of control. Its hard to control a 44 slug in flight, but a short sword has a "broader power band" so to speak.

I remember once, we had a broken window in the den. During the middle of the night, something started pushing through the tape and cardboard they had used to cover that pane until the repairman could come. My mama was just terrified and she got the ninja sword. She was alone in the house that night. She went into the den (she didnt call the cops, I dont know why) she said she was gonna cut off the robbers hand before he could unlock the window.
She said she had raised the sword when she realized it wasnt a robbers arm reaching through the broken window pane, but my black shorthaired cat!
She nearly pulled a burafan on my cat! He was forcing his fat butt through the tape.. Oh we all laugh now, but my poor kitty, he nearly got whacked in two.

 

[Bill Marsh]

Bunkertown? Well, yeah. As some of you know I live in a warehouse with steel doors and two foot thick walls. I keep a Police Hi Standard 12 ga with bullpup stock and built-in flashlight near the bed, out of sight, but ready. 2 3/4" Magnum 00 buck.

My windows are CCTVs. Just finished an alarm system that is state of the art (I hope). Three circles of defense. These begin inside a chain link and stockade fence that cricles my entire property.

1. Perimeter. The entire outside is protected with dual technology motion detectors that will not 'false' from wind blowing the trees. It won't pick up one dog that gets through my chain link fence, but it did pick up a pack of six stray dogs recently. Each the size of a German shephard. They won't be back. Birdshot does wonders.

Anyone approaching will trigger loudpseakers on the building outside, inside the warehouse and inside our home inside the warehouse. Depending on the area, I will hear "Intruder Dectected, Front Gate" so will they.

2. Warehouse. crisscrossed with wide angle long range motion detectors that cover the entire inside, vents and skylights. These being triggered will call police and/or fire as needed. Every outside door is hardwired alarmed.

Battery backups and a generator if the power is cut. Radio to call for help if phone line is cut.

3. Even more sophisticated stuff in the house itself if someone gets through all that, they will face some other surprises and finally me with the 12 guage. Thinking how I can rig an HI Khuk as a bayonet.

My speakers that inform me, and anyone intruding, of a security break can also play a pre-recorded sound bite of a 12 guage pump being cycled.

Could I be robbed, yeah, Mission Impossible could probably get in and get away, but hopefully I am protected from a "smash and grab."

BTW I strongly suggest that you visit your local police precinct. Get to know the officers in your area. Get their personal cell phone numbers. It really helps to say, "Joe, this is Bill. I have a problem over here on Cox Ave." "I'll be right there, Bill."

Don't wait until you need them and hope that a 911 call will suffice......

 

[Kevin the grey]

There is no exclamation point after the wow cause there is no indicator that would suffice . Sounds great except for the windowless part . I too live relatively windowless and it is the thing I miss the most, fresh air and natural sunlight . If everything else is up to par I am sure you have the fresh air needs met . Mayhaps you even have the daylight needs met . I use plant lights and daylight fluorescents . Nice set-up Bill .

As the punishment must exceed the crime so must security exceed the threat . Something many don,t get .

P:S: It is presuming and shouldn,t be responded to in the Cantina except in general terms .I am presuming it is magnetic contacts on your doors ? If they are using end of line resistors make sure they are inside a contact and not inside the panel .
You might have done the work yourself and be more in the know than I .
Often times security companies install the system without end of line resistors or install them in the panel which is a heck of a lot easier . Even most well seasoned technicians don,t see a difference between putting them in the contact or in the panel . It is a basic weakness in most installations I have seen . Most technicians would also blow off such questions as they are too busy or don,t know the difference their ownselves . This last bit is a generalisation .

 

[Andrew Taylor]

Bunkertown?

3. Even more sophisticated stuff in the house itself if someone gets through all that, they will face some other surprises and finally me with the 12 guage. Thinking how I can rig an HI Khuk as a bayonet.

A khukri Bayonet does exist although they are pretty rare. This one, however is made in India.

 

[Bill Marsh]

There is no exclamation point after the wow cause there is no indicator that would suffice . Sounds great except for the windowless part . I too live relatively windowless and it is the thing I miss the most, fresh air and natural sunlight . If everything else is up to par I am sure you have the fresh air needs met . Mayhaps you even have the daylight needs met . I use plant lights and daylight fluorescents . Nice set-up Bill .

As the punishment must exceed the crime so must security exceed the threat . Something many don,t get .

P:S: It is presuming and shouldn,t be responded to in the Cantina except in general terms .I am presuming it is magnetic contacts on your doors ? If they are using end of line resistors make sure they are inside a contact and not inside the panel .
You might have done the work yourself and be more in the know than I .
Often times security companies install the system without end of line resistors or install them in the panel which is a heck of a lot easier . Even most well seasoned technicians don,t see a difference between putting them in the contact or in the panel . It is a basic weakness in most installations I have seen . Most technicians would also blow off such questions as they are too busy or don,t know the difference their ownselves . This last bit is a generalisation .

We diid use end of line resistors. Not inside the panel. Makes the contacts harder to bridge. Also the outside speakers have tamper switches if someone gets a ladder and tries to pull one down or disable it.

I began the work myself, but wound up hiring one of the top guys in Atlanta to finish and program the system. He also has the monitoring contact. He does primarily high end homes and museums. He has been working with Security for almost 50 years

He is 78 and works 16 hours a day. Loves doing the work. Does not really need the work, has some very successful real estate, but he likes to work and I like that also. An avid hunter with some really fine rifles. Most are state of the art, but one of his favorites is a 30-40 Krag that has been restocked and accurized.

The system is 'way overkill, but I like gadgets and will be updating with more pieces. Like a strobe system that will trigger with the alarm system. I think that intruders don't like sound and light. And a BIG ASS Siren!

Tos, toys, toys!

I can also check status, arm and disarm from anywhere in the world where there is a phone. Same with the CCTV cameras.

I was recently in San Francisco Californai. I set up my notebook and tied into my cameras. I saw a homelsss looking guy leaning against my front gate (outside). I was able to zoom in on his face for clear identification and to be sure he was breathing! I then called my good friend with Zone 3 Atlanta LEOs and watched as he pulled up and hassleled the guy. Took him away. I was 2200 miles away.

Of Yeah, all of my cameras are on 24/7 record and download to an off-site service.

I miss the windows, but the view around me is not great, backs of houses. We planted giant green "Thuja" arbor vitaes around our permeter just inside the chain link fence. Some of them are now 12 feet tall. PLanted at six feet apart they will for a giant hedge around my perimteter. Then there are several acres of grass between them and the building. They will grow to about 50 feet and will block out the neighbors back yards. Maybe then I will cut a few windows.

But I kind of like the cave-like privacy. And it is very quiet.

The CCTV cameras give me an exceptional view of my outside. More gadgets! Night vision and 23x zoom, pan and tilt. Pelco Speed domes.

If we want a breeze, we can open the big roll-up doors where semi trucks used to drive in and deliver goods.

And when we bought it four years ago, it was cheaper than a 3bedroom, 2bath house in the neighborhood. We have done a lot of work here, but it is an ongoing labor of love.

 

[shappa]

Very impressive Bill.

Let's see. A Fokos by the front door. Baseball bat near the back door.
Cheap viking sword (reworked) over the fireplace.
About 10 custom knives and khuks displayed in the living room. Who knows how many in various drawers and boxes.
20 more customs in the middle bedroom along with 20 cheaper productions.
Hallway has 10 customs stored and 20? more productions stored. Also I don't know how many kitchen knives store there also.
Back bedroom hold ammo and reloading supplies.
Master bedroom...glocks, tauruses, colts, rugers... pistols. Various rifles, and shotguns. Most in safes.
Kitchen has 15 knives on the kitchen table (sharpening and clean up)and 15 in different knife blocks.
It's kinda funny...all those knives around and people (the VERY few) that I allow in my home always see, comment and are drawn to my snakes. They almost never comment on the knives.
Yes, I have security.

 

[Kevin the grey]

Resistors are the first line of defence and while technicaly not necessary or easy to install indicate to a semi-pro thief that he had better look elsewhere .Bill I bet you even have a couple of fire detectors hooked into your system ? No . seeing the quality of everything else I wager you have a dedicated system ? I am actually much more involved in fire alarms than intrusion alarms . Just for fun there is a detector that uses your fence itself or a wire strung above it and at ground level as another ring of security . They have their good points and their setbacks . They are used more in places with patrols or constant manned video surveilance .

Seeing the state of world affairs and home invasions becoming more frequent a good basic system with as many bells and whistles thrown in that you can afford and are comfortable with is a necessity .
My system is a basic ultrasound and 80 pounds of Malamute The ultrasound has given false detections The malamute eats his mistakes . .

 

[Bill Marsh]

Resistors are the first line of defence and while technicaly not necessary or easy to install indicate to a semi-pro thief that he had better look elsewhere .Bill I bet you even have a couple of fire detectors hooked into your system ? No . seeing the quality of everything else I wager you have a dedicated system ? I am actually much more involved in fire alarms than intrusion alarms . Just for fun there is a detector that uses your fence itself or a wire strung above it and at ground level as another ring of security . They have their good points and their setbacks . They are used more in places with patrols or constant manned video surveilance .

Seeing the state of world affairs and home invasions becoming more frequent a good basic system with as many bells and whistles thrown in that you can afford and are comfortable with is a necessity .
My system is a basic ultrasound and 80 pounds of Malamute The ultrasound has given false detections The malamute eats his mistakes . .

Yes, have smokes inside the "house" and heats outside in the warehouse. Sudden rise in temprature will trigger.

I have been in a fire before and it was scary. Drop to the floor and crawl. It is usually the smoke that kills people. Get down as low as possible.

We were alseep on the third floor of our previous home when a tenant in the basement had a torch (torciere) lamp with too big a bulb. Cord was 'made in Taiwan' and shorted.

We had to come down a spiral stair in the dark with smoke everywhere.

Now I also have a few emergency lights that come on also.

"The malamute eats his mistakes!" LOL would make a great yard sign!