Anyone been effected by the NYC knife situation? Personal, business or otherwise

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So, just curious, has anyone here been stopped by the cops in New York City for carrying a one-hand opener or assisted opener? If so, what kind of knife and what happened? Were you charged, knife confiscated, let go? What was the outcome?

I'd like to get a feel for what's actually happening out there, or if anyone has actually had to deal with this on a personal basis
 
Not sure if this counts, but this is one account on KnifeRights.org:
Nov. 24, 2010: On this Thanksgiving, one New York citizen is giving thanks to Knife Rights Foundation for a holiday without the threat of a year in jail hanging over his head.

The New Yorker, whose name is being withheld to prevent possible harassment, said, "words cannot express my thanks to Knife Rights Foundation for coming to my aid and helping me gain a measure of justice when things looked pretty bleak for me."

"Knife Rights is pleased that our legal team's first foray against New York County District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. is resulting in dismissal of charges against a wrongly accused citizen," said Knife Rights Foundation chairman Doug Ritter.

Charges against the defendant, who was carrying a Gerber one-hand opening pocketknife used daily in his work, were resolved with an Adjournment in Contemplation of Dismissal (ACD) in the first case in which Knife Rights Foundation lent its assistance. This citizen originally faced up to one year in jail and a criminal record which could have jeopardized his professional license and livelihood. Until the Knife Rights legal team became involved in his defense, an ACD had not been offered, even though it had been sought. After Knife Rights' research and legal arguments were stated in an extensive brief, the DA offered the ACD rather than proceed with prosecution of the case. A typical ACD results in dismissal of a case after passage of a brief period of time and satisfaction of certain conditions (often a brief period of community service), and that was the result in this first case.

Knife Rights Foundation denounces the DA's continuing expenditure of scarce time and taxpayer dollars to prosecute innocent citizens carrying perfectly legal pocketknives. "Police and prosecutors ought to be focused on real criminals who threaten the safety and livelihood of hardworking taxpayers," said Ritter.

Due to their practicality and added safety, one-hand opening pocketknives represent 80% of the pocketknives sold in America today and were specifically excluded from being considered a gravity knife or switchblade by a bipartisan act of Congress in 2009. Ritter also noted that "New York's statutes prohibiting gravity knives and switchblades clearly do not cover these popular tools." A recent ruling by a Federal District Court in New York made this clear and pointed out that arrests for mere possession of such knives would have the unintended consequence of "transform[ing] thousands of honest mechanics into criminals, subject to arrest at the whim of any police officer" (United States v Irizzary).
I'm personally not so sure it would ever happen unless you were arrested and searched for some other reason, or you pulled your knife out in public. It might be because my shirt is untucked and probably covers the pocket clip, but I've never been searched because of the knife I carry.

P.S.
I've never been to New York, but I don't believe Hawaii is anymore friendly to pocket knives, and a few of my coworkers did describe it as a "weapon"(at least until I pointed out that my ballpoint pen is equally as deadly a weapon:rolleyes:).
 
It seems that almost all online knife stores including some knife manufacturers are not shipping any "locking" knives to NY. Some of the members here are having a hard time even acquiring knives from others in the Exchange. My understanding is that if the cops have reasonable suspiscion to stop you (speeding, loitering, etc.) They can search you and a locking knife would probably constitute some sort of crime under the new "legal interpretation". I like the article on ATKI's site, Doug Ritter and company are doing good for us all. This would make a decent sticky for a couple weeks that would get some good feedback.
 
Not sure if this counts, but this is one account on KnifeRights.org:
I'm personally not so sure it would ever happen unless you were arrested and searched for some other reason, or you pulled your knife out in public. It might be because my shirt is untucked and probably covers the pocket clip, but I've never been searched because of the knife I carry.

P.S.
I've never been to New York, but I don't believe Hawaii is anymore friendly to pocket knives, and a few of my coworkers did describe it as a "weapon"(at least until I pointed out that my ballpoint pen is equally as deadly a weapon:rolleyes:).

i rarely go to nyc but a friend recently warned me that cops sometimes does random searches of backpacks in the subway. you can refuse the search but you then can't ride the subway.
 
I travel to Manhattan quite often and have luckily never been stopped. However, I drop whatever knife I have on me in my pocket since having it clipped could draw attention to myself. I have also been carrying mostly smaller blades that really can't be flicked open easily. I still don't (and never will) agree with Vance's "rules" at all, but its easier to just comply rather than having to explain why your knife IS LEGAL to a thick-headed cop who just wants to give you a hard time. I hope Vance realizes that this rule doesn't make the city any safer and just limits law abiding citizens...they should just adopt Arizona's laws and call it a day. :)
 
I travel to Manhattan quite often and have luckily never been stopped. However, I drop whatever knife I have on me in my pocket since having it clipped could draw attention to myself. I have also been carrying mostly smaller blades that really can't be flicked open easily. I still don't (and never will) agree with Vance's "rules" at all, but its easier to just comply rather than having to explain why your knife IS LEGAL to a thick-headed cop who just wants to give you a hard time. I hope Vance realizes that this rule doesn't make the city any safer and just limits law abiding citizens...they should just adopt Arizona's laws and call it a day. :)

Good Post, and AZ does have some awesome knife laws ;)
 
Good Post, and AZ does have some awesome knife laws ;)

Thank you. I can't imagine NYC getting similar laws any time soon if at all. But I can dream right? ;)

And one more thing I neglected to mention before is that having a knife clipped to your pocket can be considered "malicious intent to the public" on top of just drawing attention to oneself.
 
Well, I haven't had an issue, except for soo many companies that wont ship to me. I'm not in the 5 borough's but go into NYC often enough. My gf commutes everyday. I had given her pepper spray to carry, but she has to leave it home because of the random subway checks. Will a business women have a problem if stopped in the subway... maybe maybe not... it's a big chance. I did have a "mate" on a booze cruise insist on me checking my long time edc until we returned to the dock. I was not a happy camper and was waiting for this guy to disappear with my first year Spyderco Goddard, but all good. I did get nervous when he found it at the dock while the Marine Patrol was standing by, but he kept it low key
oh yea, make sure it can't be considered a "gravity" knife, or YOU ARE SCREWED!
 
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Man NY sounds like a real nightmare for those who choose to carry even a knife that is considered legal. I doubt the laws have detoured any criminals from carrying illegal weapons.
 
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