Anyone else have these rings?

Spenceds

Spenceds

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Hey just received my hyper today, and I have always been a fan of black blades but didn't want the serrations, but I must say the ti-coating is awesome and I love the gun metal effect it has. :( The ONLY thing I found wrong with it is when I changed it to point up carry, I will add a picture to show what I mean. I got the screws and clip off and noticed rings around the screw holes, my guess is the coating was applied with the screws in to save paint so they wouldn't have to spray them separately, just a minor detail, but I have to admit it burns my biscuits to look at it and think it would look much better without the rings.

You will also notice i modified the thumb stud on my wharcom, I didn't like angle at which i had to push on it, and remembered how the stub on my kershaw blur was angled and how comfortable it was. I also took down the other side to wafer thin it would catch on my pocket and i am right handed so i didn't need it. I have two wharcoms, so I felt better knowing if i messed one up. By the way I have to say I love the designs and quality of all the clb knives I just wish there was a retailer that carried the whole line nearby so I wouldn't have to spend the money to order it hoping i will like it.
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To me it doesn't look like the clip was on it when it was painted ... you'd have more than just "rings" the entire area coverred by the clip would have been bare and the clip probably would have pulled up the paint around the edges ... leaving more of a "T" shape. I believe it was the installation of the screws that wore away the paint leaving the "circles" Was it a real bare to back those screws off? My first guess is over-tightenning of the screws (if the flange surface of the clip is no longer flat - that's your answer). Another possibly, the holes were tapped AFTER finishing. It's the shortcuts I see that make me leary of Chinese made knives. If you are manufacturing over seas it really can't be much cheaper to go to China than Taiwan but there are serious QC differences. The Taiwanese make pretty decent blades - IMHO often on par with American and European quality - the Chinese don't.
 
mozzy said:
To me it doesn't look like the clip was on it when it was painted ... you'd have more than just "rings" the entire area coverred by the clip would have been bare and the clip probably would have pulled up the paint around the edges ... leaving more of a "T" shape.
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Sorry i wasn't clear in my description, but I meant ONLY the screws were left on during the painting process, definitely not the clip, it would have left an obvious mark and the back side of the clip closest to the knife would not have been coated. I would say that they put the screws in when the coat was still wet but that would mean they would have put the clip on at that time too. And i don't believe it is due to the holes being tapped after the coating process because the holes at the other end did not have the same markings around them, not to mention the markings are suspiciously identical in size to the screws.
i did not realize i was buying a knife manufactured in china, even though it would not have stopped me. simply because i trust Boker and I know Chad designs an awesome knife. However and this is IMHO if I were putting my name or mark on a product, you could be damn sure i wouldn't let it out of the warehouse with a flaw like that no matter how small.
Sorry if that seems harsh but it is just a good business practice i feel. This will in no way keep me from purchasing any other knives from boker or the clb line, as I already have a list :D This Hyper is now my EDC along with the Wharcom pictured as a money clip. Thanks guys, I am very impressed so far with this site and the members and individuals who run it.
Semper Fi
Spenceds
 
oh I agree whole-heartedly. Reguardless of how or why the flaw is there ... it's something that should NOT have been over-looked. Simple QC, I'd think that at some point a production knife had to have been dis-assembled, if for nothing more than to check tolerances ... IMHO at that point someone should have noticed the "rings". I know it's not normally planned when designing a knife, but clip removal or re-positioning is pretty common. One look at the Armed Forces models tells you that someone at Boker knows this ... they already tapped screw holes on the four common mounting points ... almost surprised the clip and screws just weren't left in a baggie for the consumer to install. I tried to relocate one of these to LH and one of the screw was grossly over tightenned and actually snapped off my torx-head. I got another scewdriver and just tightenned the screws back up ... I had another identical knife and just changed that one instead. Now I have one LH and one RH ... No, I wasn't doing this to carry both at the sametime. I am actually a southpaw. Or as you Marines would say "wrong armed".
 
mozzy said:
almost surprised the clip and screws just weren't left in a baggie for the consumer to install. I tried to relocate one of these to LH and one of the screw was grossly over tightenned and actually snapped off my torx-head. I got another scewdriver and just tightenned the screws back up ... I had another identical knife and just changed that one instead. Now I have one LH and one RH ... No, I wasn't doing this to carry both at the sametime. I am actually a southpaw. Or as you Marines would say "wrong armed".
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See that would save them a spot on the assembly line but the way they did it they took out the need to coat the screws separately, smart. . . but its funny because they had to take the screws out anyway to put the clip on, lol oh well i wouldn't send the knife in anyway, imho if they wanna replace it send me the new knife with a return envelope to send the one being replaced in, i just don't think i should be inconvenienced due to a missed flaw that should have been caught by QC, but like i said i love this knife and it is now my edc, no hard feelings towards anyone just wondered if i was the only one and hoped it might get back to QC for future QC inspections. . . like for the m-type and edit i just ordered. Chad I can't say enough good things about your knifes just one request. . . how about a fixed blade with a blade like the hyper or m-type, something more the size of the edit and subcom fixed.

Don't think I have ever heard the term "wrong armed", but that definitely sounds like something you would hear in boot on the rifle range. "Well hell boy, I know why you can't hit the damn target you're all wrong armed, G@@ damn recruiters!" :D I usually just said "No stupid, you're other right!"
 
Spenceds said:
Don't think I have ever heard the term "wrong armed", but that definitely sounds like something you would hear in boot on the rifle range. "Well hell boy, I know why you can't hit the damn target you're all wrong armed, G@@ damn recruiters!" :D I usually just said "No stupid, you're other right!"
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Well I never served myself, but I assumed it was a somewhat universal military term. A family friend was an Airbourne Ranger (yeah I know that "OTHER" branch). He constantly told me that when we'd go shoot and after enough hot discharged casing to the face ... I did learn to shoot right-handed ... a hot .223 out of a AR-15 can be pretty brutal on the skin. The whole "wrong armed" sentiment from my understanding dealt directly with the side of the breach on a rifle - not a lack of knowing left from right. With only 1-10 being southpaws ... really wouldn't be in Uncle Sammy's interest to have left-hand converted weapons. I'd feel sorry for the right-hander that had to use one.
 
mozzy said:
Well I never served myself, but I assumed it was a somewhat universal military term. A family friend was an Airbourne Ranger (yeah I know that "OTHER" branch). He constantly told me that when we'd go shoot and after enough hot discharged casing to the face ... I did learn to shoot right-handed ... a hot .223 out of a AR-15 can be pretty brutal on the skin. The whole "wrong armed" sentiment from my understanding dealt directly with the side of the breach on a rifle - not a lack of knowing left from right. With only 1-10 being southpaws ... really wouldn't be in Uncle Sammy's interest to have left-hand converted weapons. I'd feel sorry for the right-hander that had to use one.
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I don't really consider anyone the "other" branch, since I am currently Army NG getting into Green Berets if I can get a stupid a$$ medical waiver for heartburn:jerkit:. Yeah I didn't mean they didn't know their left from right, i just never remembered who my lefties were so when I teaching techniques or tactics I would say "now if you use your other right you would do it like this..."
LOL you just reminded me of a dumba$$ in my team, we were running a range and a piece of brass went down his collar and got pinned by his weighted down vest against his skin, that boy jumped up and was tearing his clothes off, ah good times. Needless to say the range wasn't exactly successful we were all too busy laughing to do what we were suppose to. Of course we all cursed his name fifteen minutes later when we had to run it again. Ah yes the good 'ole days...don't miss it, too much.:barf:
 
Daywalker said:
Aloha ALL,

Hmmmmmmm...I got some kinda rings, but not like THAT!!!:eek:
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Guess Doc got a later batch as ours..
I happened to observe the blade coating is much thicker as on the handle slab.

Still no worries on my part on the first batch. My rings are bit less as the ones shown on Spenceds one.

Spenceds: no worries i guess . they may look a bit fugly but won't affect the knives performance.

I always wipe my blades clean after dirty use. Whatever Brand.

ClBs rock for there price compared to much more upscale priced ones...

Why paying 100 dollars for a knive performing the same ... it all should be kept in perspective. If you want better finish on a knive you have to pay more. The performance stays the same . Looks may deferre..

;)
 
I was going over the forum and found this old thread. I received a Hyper a couple of weeks ago and it must be from the first batch as it to has the rings like the original posters Hyper.

My Hyper is still great and is my daily EDC now along with a subcom.;) I really like the color of the coating.

Keep up the good work Chad.:thumbup:
 
I see "China" stamped on the blade in one of those pics. So maybe that's a clue.
 
Mine has China on the blade as well, but other than the "rings" it seems the Hyper may be an exception to other China stamped/made knifes out there.:)

It really is a nice knife for the money.
 
Spenceds said:
You will also notice i modified the thumb stud on my wharcom, I didn't like angle at which i had to push on it, and remembered how the stub on my kershaw blur was angled and how comfortable it was.
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How did you do that? I just got a Subcom F
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Like you the I think the thumb stud placement / angle to be a bit awkward and would like to change it but do not want to hog it out either. Had you not mentioned it I would have just lived with it. Thanks for the heads up and the help.
 
I used my dremel and some small needle files, it took a little while and for the first week i kept touching it up until i got it to where i wanted it, good luck
 
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