anyone ever make your own "wave"

callahwj

callahwj

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I'm fascinated by emerson's wave feature and I wonder if something similar could be done to modify a non-emerson knife. I was thinking of grinding the back of an Endura so that the hole is exposed on one corner, if you can picture that, the problem is I don't know if that would catch the pants or not, and if it would slip off when the blade when it opens. Anyone try something like this? I also wonder if you could make something that screws on and acts as a wave... Any other ideas or suggestions or experience?
 
I had noticed one day that a Vallotton Chameleon would pop open if pulled out as if it had a wave. I tried out the Timberline M/A production model and it works to.
 
I was, like you, fascinated with the Wave feature on Emerson's knives. I built a horrible looking thing from kydex, glass fiber and epoxy resin. It hooks on to the thumbstud of my SOG X-ray, sticks out like a sore thumb and looks like a pile of dried snot, but it works. I believe some others have also tried doing it, some by grinding and others by making bolt on accessories. Tried looking around for the thread which I started on this topic, but the last 3 years worth of archives have not been loaded. Only the first year's archives are up.

Go ahead and try it. The geometery, ergonomics, etc. are simple and when you've built or modified your knife, you'd slap your forehead and exclaim "why didn't I think of that?" BTW, you do have a knife with a Wave you can model? Like I said, it's not hard to copy. Probably a lot of work to grind in to an Endura though. You'd have to remove quite a lot of material.

Just to let you know, Emerson already holds the patent on both the Wave as an intergral part of the knife and as a bolt on accessory. Some forumites seemed a little touchy on the issue, but I believe that if you merely confine the mods to your personal knives, Mr Emerson won't mind.
 
I modified a couple Enduras by hand for friends, works like a charm. Quite a few people have re-mounted the clips on their Benchmade CQC-7s [discontined] for tip-up carry and using a Dremel, have ground a notch into the front of the thumb ramp to act as a Wave with excellent results.
 
No, I did them way before I ever had a DigiCam or Scanner. I might try to rustle one of the fellas up though. I know someone else who has one that was NOT done by me. Maybe he can post a pic as well. You basically cut the front out of the hole and polish it. And a Waaave you go!
 
Probably better to do it near the front of the opening hole(furthest away from the handle when open)... at the back you could get the curve pushing the material away from the hook so it fails to catch... That's pure speculation though.
 
I made one for my LCC out of steel wire and it worked better than the commander I've played with.
I took it off though, not sure how it would hold up under long term use.
I planned on making one out of a solid piece of metal that was held on by the stud, but just havent had the time to do it.
 
After playing with my Commander for a while I decided to carry my 710 (just can't keep away for it). When I went to remove it from my pocket, I pulled it out like I would my Commander (mot thinging about it) and POP out comes the blade. Thinking it was a fluke, I tried again, same result. All it takes is some peractice and the wiling to rip up your pants. The knife just needs to be tip up and have dual thumbstuds. Good luck.
Brian
 
I was also wondering if a piece like the "one armed bandit", used to attach to a Buck 110, could be designed with a hook or wave built in. This way it could simply be screwed on to a spine of a knife.

Also has anyone yet designed a blade similar to the Smith & Wesson H.R.T. which has the finger guards designed in such a way that it would work like a wave? The H.R.T. itself (designed by Darrell Ralph and Mike Lamprey) looks like it might work like a wave already.

Don't get me wrong: I fully appreciate Emerson's design of the wave and the fact that he is the first to have it. I am just surprised that someone hasn't already designed a legal variation of it.
 
I can't imagine what Emerson has patented, if anything ... pocketrippers have been around since the middle ages.

The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? It hath been already of old time, which was before us.
 
I have a discontinued Kershaw Talon with the bottle opener feature modified for tip up carry. It is the FASTEST folder I've found. One thing about pocket openers is accessing the blade and the mechanics involved to actually make the opener catch the pocket.

If you go with pocket carry you usually either carry against the seam of your trousers or in the hip/thigh crease. What I've found is that carrying in the crease, at least for me, is the faster index since the hand naturally falls there. The bottle opener of course is a true bottle opener so the cut is deeper than on Emerson's Wave. This requires less drag by the user and the material dragged on doesn't have to be so stiff such as a seam. Most people I see carrying a Commander seem to draw it with rearward mechanics. The Talon, because of the deeper cut, doesn't require as radical of a rake so forward/centerline mechanics work to access the blade.

This translates as to being able to even "wave" (verb), the Talon even if I'm bearhugged from behind at the elbow points where I've only got my wrist to use to generate momentum for the opening. You can also open the Talon, without any transition, from the pocket in a point up or point down configuration depending on whether your flavor is sak-sak or pakal.
 
Quote Cougar Allen:
I can't imagine what Emerson has patented, if anything ... pocketrippers have been around since the middle ages.
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I'm having trouble posting a link to the patent. Go here and do a search on "5,878,500"
 
Thanks for the link, John, I went right to it with no trouble.

That's definitely a patent on the whole concept of the pocketripper. That happens pretty frequently -- the patent office makes an effort to find out if an invention is new or not, but their research budget is very limited so sometimes they issue new patents on old inventions. Then when the patent owner (who undoubtably thought his idea was new too) tries to enforce it the defendant shows Exhibits A, B, C, etc., all antique navajas with pocketrippers, and that's the end of that patent....

For more on old pocketrippers: Snickersnee is the resident expert on navajas around here and I expect Bernard Levine and some of the denizens of his forum know something about them, too.
 
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