Anyone get a MOD CQD yet, opinions?

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I've got my order in for a manual and an auto double edge and can't wait to get this knife, but I hear/see some are getting them. Anyone here get one yet? What are your opinions of it?

Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but I didn't see a MOD forum under Makers/Manuf.

[This message has been edited by Mongoose (edited 04-05-2000).]
 
We will have them hopefully as soon as next week. Here is a review by Spark when Jim stopped by a few months back with a prototype.

Jim Ray stopped by the shop last week and one of the things he brought with him was the new Masters of Defense / Duane Dieter collaboration: The Close Quarters Defense (CQD) Special Operations Trainer.

<table width="206" border="0" align="left" vspace="5" hspace="5"><tr bgcolor="#CCCC99"><td><table width="200" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="3"><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td><a href="http://www.bladeforums.com/spark/cqd2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.bladeforums.com/spark/cqd2_sm.jpg" width="200" height="128" border="0" alt="Click here to see a larger version of this picture"></a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td><div align="center"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.bladeforums.com/spark/cqd2.jpg" target="_blank">Medium Version</a> (600 x 384)</font></div></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td><div align="center"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.bladeforums.com/spark/cqd2_lg.jpg" target="_blank">Large Version</a> (800 x 512)</font></div></td></tr></table></td></tr></table>The first impression you get when you see it is that it's a big knife. It's designed to be used, and used heavily, in military or police situations. Everything about the knife is beefy and solid, and using it while wearing gloves isn't going to be a problem.

The knife opens via the ambidextrous conical thumbstuds, and what's even better is that this knife is *truly* lefty friendly. Not only can it be opened with either hand, but as you can see from the pictures, the handles are drilled and tapped so that the tip up pocket clip (included) can be mounted on either side.

The 154CM blade features a drop point design that's heavy on tip strength, yet thin enough to be a good penetrator. The partial serrations lend to better cutting ability through thicker materials, and the blade has a subdued finish to prevent overt light reflection.

Though you can't see it in the pictures, the top edge is polished and can be sharpened if the user desires. Current models do *not* feature a sharpened top edge, however future military models will. One thing to keep in mind though is that the typical knife owner will use both hands to close their knife - a recipe for stitches if you aren't careful. This is one of the reasons why only the military models will come with a sharpened top edge standard.

Moving back further, you come to the button lock, which is surrounded by a raised lip that prevents unintentional closings, while keeping the button accessible for easy use. As an additional safeguard, there is a sliding safety button on the back of the handle that will lock the knife open while in use - a truly necessary touch in my opinion for any serious duty knife. Lockup is solid with no blade play, which is typical for the MOD line.

<table width="206" border="0" align="right" vspace="5" hspace="5"><tr bgcolor="#CCCC99"><td><table width="200" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="3"><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td><a href="http://www.bladeforums.com/spark/cqd1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.bladeforums.com/spark/cqd1_sm.jpg" width="200" height="81" border="0" alt="Click here to see a larger version of this picture"></a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><a href="http://www.bladeforums.com/spark/cqd1.jpg" target="_blank">Medium Version</a> (600 x 243)</font></div></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td><div align="center"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><a href="http://www.bladeforums.com/spark/cqd1_lg.jpg" target="_blank">Large Version</a> (800 x 324)</font></div></td></tr></table></td></tr></table>Neither Mike nor myself had any time to really perform tests on the knife, but we did run through the standard gamut. The knife is ergonomically designed so that it's comfortable in either the forward or reverse grip, and there are no difficulties changing your grip position while the knife is deployed. There are ridges machined into all the primary gripping areas for extra security, and the knife is easy to index in the hand, while the 3 humps at the finger swells are comfortable in both the reverse and saber grips.

The 6061 T6 Aluminum handles have several interesting features incorporated into them that set this knife apart from the rest.

Below the button lock, you can see a upraised ridge machined into the knife. Present on both sides, the ridge is there to aid in getting the knife out of the pocket or sheath and into action quickly. Believe me, they certainly made getting the knife out easier for me; fishing it out of my pockets was a breeze.

Instead of your typical Kraton inserts, MOD decided to go a different route and use "WingWalk" material for an extra "grabby" gripping surface. Unlike Kraton, the material will not swell or rub away, and if wet will still provide enhanced surface traction for your fingers. Furthermore, when wearing gloves the material gives that little extra security to prevent the knife from flying away due to wet or slippery conditions. The skeletonized handles also add to grip surety, and lighten the weight of the knife at the same time.

At the rear end of the knife you can see a notch with a pair of blades mounted in a scissors position. My first thought when I saw that was that it was intended for cutting parachute shroud lines, something sorely needed for any paratrooper caught up in their deployed chute. However, Jim informed me that their primary purpose was for the cutting of "flexi-cuffs", the zip-tie type handcuffs carried by police officers and tactical units worldwide, and I have to admit, it makes a lot of sense. Instead of having to deploy the knife to cut the flexi-cuffs free, or remembering to bring along the wire cutters, all you have to do is slip the edge under and pull. Since the blades are shielded like a letter openers, there is no risk to the 'cuffed party, and no chance of the user cutting themselves, or something else. Should these blades dull, the user can simply remove the Torx screws holding them in place and sharpen the blades with any common sharpening system.

A lanyard hole completes this rugged knife, and while I'm not sure if a sheath will come standard (Jim had it in one, but I forgot to ask if it's standard), I will make this recommendation: carry the knife in a belt sheath, or in a pouch. I find the knife a bit too bulky for pocket carry, and since it's designed as a military / law enforcement tool having the extra security is worth it, because it doesn't do you any good if it falls out of your pocket.

All in all, this is one rugged utility or duty tool that most professionals would find handy to have. It's big enough and rugged enough to take the punishment that typical duty equipment needs to endure, yet is decidedly non threatening looking (a big plus in my book), and has all the appropriate features that raise it above the competition.

This is one of the few folders that I feel will do well in military, police and heavy utility situations.

Spark

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Thanks Mike, good to hear from you again. Makes me evenmore anxious!!

Geoff,

I should be getting my Black/Plain manual today or tomorrow. I spoke with MOD on Monday and they were sendingit out UPS for me. I also found a pre-production black/part serrated in the for sale section I'm going to pick up for a friend. My auto black/plain double edge should behere in June or July and I'll post a review of it then. I'm on my way to read your review right now. Thanks!!
 
I got my MOD Manual Black/Plain and I have to say that this knife is even better than I expected. Now I can't wait for my Auto to arrive!!

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I'll start off with the grip features. I have handled many a knife in my day and this one ranks WAY up there in comfort in both forward and reverse grips. I usually use saber grip in forward strikes/fighting as I have found it the easiest to transition into reverse grip from. This one holds tight in saber with the knife filling the hand and the thumb resting on the safety button. The serrations on the backstrap are perfeclty placed and grooved. They don't cut into your hand like others I've handled. In reverse grip the side hilts hold the knife in place and prevent accidentally "sliding" onto the blade. I rest my thumb on the utility" blade for easy indexing.

I did some practice drills (not against anything, just for handling practice) and the knife, although very large, held properly, switched swiftly, and moved very smoothly. It was light in the hand and would be a very nice fighter to carry, though I most likely won't in plain clothes. I know some want to make every knife an all around knife and feel this is a down fall of the CQD. In my opinion this knife fits it's roll perfectly. I would acall it a offensive knife that would fill the defensive roll perfectly. I won't call it a daily carry knife unless you have a duty belt or LBE to carry it on. This knife won't hide easily, but that is not it's intended design. I received mine witht he standard nylon carry case (kydex cases are still in the works and I will receive 2 with my auto). I'm sure I'll prefer the kydex carrier more as I would prefer an opne top carrier for the knife. This will be perfectly at home on duty, but will more likely wind up on my tactical gear until the auto arrives. I will post some pics of it next to my AFCK and Emerson Commander later tonight.

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Onto some of it's features. The grip inserts prove to be very useful especialy when wearing gloves of any kind (tried the knife with both Nomex and Hatch Friskmaster leather grloves). I'm sure if they hold up they will help tremendously when in a wet enviroment.

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The utility blade will be a very nice feature to hav around if you cut flex cuffs, tie wraps, box ties, seatbelts, (you get the idea). It seems to be two blades in a scissor configuration that is held together by the base of the knife body. It is removable for sharpening, and razor sharp from MOD If they offered a model without the utility blade it would still be a nice knife to own, but I prefer having the use of the utility blade on mine so I see no need to remove it on future offerings.

Now, there is only one dislike I have to mention and it is a MINOR thing. The knife's tolerances are VERY close (as are all MODs) and the "flick of the wrist" opening technique liked by some is just not pssible with this knife. It feels like the plunge lock is holding the knife in place and won't allow it to "snap" out like some other knives. This is not an issue as I have an auto on order, and the very nature of a plunge lock would prevent the snap opening so it was no suprise the CQD wouldn't do this.

All in all this is a spectacular knife, but is more along the lines of a Mk23 SOCOM than a USP45 or USP45C. It is a wicked knife and a beautiful design, and in the hands of a trained operator will definitely prove itself VERY useful. It's not a daily carry (unless you prefer to carry your knifes in the sheath) for your ordinary, everyday Joe, but for those of us that have the desire for a true offensive knife with defensive AND utility uses, this one will it the roll perfectly. I recommend everyone adding one to their collection of "tactical" knives. Pictures will be posted soon. Take care all!!


[This message has been edited by Mongoose (edited 04-28-2000).]
 
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