Anyone have a Simon for sale?

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Hello:
Unfortunately, I have lost my beloved Simon. It was the last knife my Bro-in-Law who worked at Schrade for 40 years gave me before he passed away.
Anyone have one they might be willing to sell reasonably? Mine was an early model, plain, without the leaf. Contact is America1903@gmail.com
Thanks a lot
 
We are not allowed to buy and sell (or solicit) on this forum. However there is frequently one or more of these listed for sale on eBay at reasonable prices.

The "leaf" was a construct/feature added to the Simon design by the new owner of the trademarks, Taylor Brands, LLC.

There were two embodiments of the original SS-1 Simon. One had a wire torsion bar in the caribiner clip and the other has a small leaf spring. IIRC, there was either a patent infringement issue or a breakage issue involved with the change of the clip. Thus a complete collection including the Simon should include one of each embodiment.

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Good luck in your search!
 
Introduced in 2002, the $19.95 Schrade Simon SS1 was a small open frame “key chain” knife. According to the introductory ads:
The simple 3" Simon knife locks for safe use and is crafted from stainless steel and lightweight anodized aluminum. The 2 1/4" stainless steel blade is pierced for easy one hand opening. Simon’s most unique feature is it’s plunger type device that allows fast and easy attach or detach from a key chain, belt loop or vest.

* Simple one hand use
* Easy to use, easy on the pocketbook
* Quick release mechanism
* Perfect for key ring, vest
Schrade expanded the offerings of the simple Simon SS1 line in 2003 by adding more blade and handle finishes, “dynamic color treatments”:

SS1 - Natural blade and handle $19.95
SS1AB - All Black blade and handle $28.95
SS15 - Black blade and Realtree camo handle $28.95
SS16 - Black and Blue Marble finish blade, handle $28.95
SS17 - Natural blade and Damascus style handle $28.95

Models and prices remained the same for 2004.

According to Schrade product manager Tim Faust in 2002,
“Simon is probably Schrades hottest new knife. Simon comes from “Simple
Simon” -its a very simple knife to use, and helps simplify people's everyday lives because its carabiner type device allows quick and easy attachment and detachmnt from key chain, back pack , fishing vest, etc. Its the perfect knife for travel, for use around the house, for cutting boxes or tape at the office,etc.”
Weighing an ounce or less, and less than a quarter inch thick, the SS1 is an easily carried knife. The carabiner clip, originally a looped wire, was changed to a flat spring steel bar after introduction. As with most open framed knives, the Simon’s blade is mounted to one side of the frame, and nests in a black plastic cover attached to the side of the frame. Smooth opening and closing is facilitated by a tiny ball bearing inset into the forward frame portion that forms the lockbar. When the blade full closes, the ball drops into a matching detent on the blade making accidental opening unlikely. Lubricity is provided at the pivot torx screw by a nylon washer. The satin finished Schrade+ stainless chisel ground Wharncliff blade has a kidney shaped piercing to facilitate opening the knife. This piercing is placed so that when the knife is closed, the frame stamp (there is no tang stamp) can be clearly seen through the hole.

The knife is awkward at first to use, having no finger groove on the lower frame to prevent a forefinger from slipping off the short handle onto the blade, but with a bit of playing and experimentation, I found that using a thumb-forefinger pinch on the pivot screw provided the surest grip and allowed adequate control of the blade. Texturing the screws would have been an improvement, as would adding a slight lower finger groove, but it is , after all, a simple knife.

The clip spring bar seems weak, and I expect that it would fail after a bit of flexing. I want to find the earlier wire bar knife and compare it. The blade had no up and down play, and once I tightened the pivot screw with a torx wrench, there was no side to side play at all. Fit and finish of the six parts is quite good.

I give this little knife high marks for it’s price. And I invite others to add their two cents, corrections, additions and comments.

Codger

And here is some quoted discussion of the Simon with a former Schrade employee:

The clip was changed due to a possible patent infringment issue. The replacement was a disaster, bad heat treating and / or material caused problems with the clip taking a set or snapping. Some cracked when inserted into the frame.

Interesting information! Do you happen to know when the change was made? I am going to guess that it must have been very near the beginning of 2004, since I see examples of the SS17 as well as SS1 with the wire clip. And all of the variations are illustrated with the wire clip in the SC02-CP209 flier. Just wondering which type would be now most common.

Codger

It was early 2004

Thankyou again. So the wire type, produced for two years is the less plentiful now on the secondary market, but the bar type produced for less than half a year will prove to be more rare in the future, even with the design flaw which will add to the natural attrition rate. Good information to have.

Codger
 
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