Anyone have experience with the Entrek Merc?

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Looking into purchasing an Entrek and the Merc caught my eye. I saw a review about it on youtube but I'm wondering if anyone else has hands on experience with it - especially how well it holds an edge, how rust resistant it is, and the general durability / fit and finish of the knife. I don't have much experience with 440C.

Any input on the knife, other Entrek blades, or just Entrek in general would be appreciated!



As for the knife, it's the second one down on the right:
http://www.ennis-entrekusa.com/index2.htm

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I'm not a knife expert, but I do know Ray ennis (the maker, fabricator of enterk knives) and his knives. To start with Ray has over 35 years of knife making experience. He takes great pride in his work and is as honest as the day is long. He's a gentleman and doesn't need the limelight to survive. He's soft spoken and doesn't do much advertising. He keeps using 440c in his knives because it's proven and when done right, is as good all around steel as there is. I know of no one who has used his knives and not agreed that they are top-notch. The pricing is great. The quality is great. And Ray himself is great. Give them a try you won't be disappointed.
 
My problems with Entrek knives are the sheaths (VERY thin kydex, just plan on replacing) and often the handles are too small for my large hands. That second one, however, is not an issue with the Merc as it has one of the meatier handles of all the models. The forward slant on the guard is also very nice as it still fulfills its duties of keeping your hand off the blade while actually giving your thumb somewhere to go if you like a saber grip.

As to build quality, and fit/finish, they're very good. They're definitely subdued but the finish level is consistent around the whole knife, the grind lines are very even on all the examples I've seen/owned, and no sharp edges or corners in the handle or gaps between the scales and tangs.

Edge geometries tend to run on the thicker side (they are marketed as "tactical" knives, after all) but the bevels are nearly always consistent and even, and they come very sharp. Now, thicker edges never cut as well as thinner edges, but then they also always hold their edge longer than thinner edges. With properly heat treated 440C--which Ray's knives are--edge retention as far as abrasive cutting (cardboard/leather/rope) will be slightly superior to 1095, about on par with A2 at the same hardness/geometry. If you want comparison to stainless steels, it's nipping at the heels of 154CM and ATS-34 and a bit further behind S30V and D2.

As to edge retention in regards to chipping/blunting, it's not quite as tough as 1095 at the same hardness/geometry, but again Ray's geometries run towards the robust side of things so unless you're just being goofy I don't think you'll see much of that kind of edge damage in the course of using it.

Rusting---well, bead blasting is one of the absolute best ways to ensure that steel rusts as it gives a bunch of places for moisture to accumulate and makes it hard to wipe a knife completely clean/dry. This is bead blasted "stainless" steel, so it does a little better, but don't leave it sitting in saltwater, and clean it off promptly if it comes in contact with blood, and you shouldn't see any pitting. If surface rust develops, flitz or a polish-impregnated wool like Nevr Dull will remove it easily.

Word to the wise---many years ago Buck was finally pushed far enough to drop 440C in favor of other alloys as many of its customers were having a hard time sharpening it, and if you're using a traditional stone and oil, you'll have the same experience as 440C has relatively low machineability. The difference is, these days there are excellent diamond and ceramic sharpeners available to you which will chew through this steel with ease, so use the right tools and you'll do well.

Greatest knives in the world? No. Damned fine knives for the money? Oh yes. Hope that helps.
 
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Thank you very much for the responses, guys. t1mpani, I especially appreciate that condensed lesson on 440C:thumbup:

I'm now thinking I'll go with one of the smaller blades first, like the 11 Bravo, and see how I like it before picking up one of the larger blades. I'll be sure to post my thoughts when I pick it up.

Anymore input about Entrek knives is welcome!
 
You're entirely welcome--

Just one last thought---if you're worried about rust, another option would be to go with one of the models that has the black epoxy coat (Merc is one of them). The most likely place to rust on any full-tang knife is the tang, as oily/acidic fingers are constantly pressing against it, and even though the finish on the blade will wear with use, the coating over the tang should last a long time and will protect it very well. If you don't want the black coating, clear polyurathane wood finish adheres well to bead blasted surfaces and will protect fairly well too.

Best of luck

Edit to add: Okay, this time this really IS my last thought---the 11 Bravo is AWFULLY meaty for its size: 1/4" thick on a saber-ground blade that's under 5" in length. Obviously it's whatever you want that matters, but you might look at the Javelina for a similar size and shape with a little better overall cutting ability, and 3/16" is still hugely robust at that blade length.
 
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Thanks, t1mpani. You're right that 1/4" is awfully thick... especially for a knife that size. I think you're on to something when you say that what I want is what matters and that's part of the problem - I don't know what I want! Haha... I just really want to try out an Entrek for some reason.

I'm going to spend some more time considering the different models. One of the things I like aesthetically is the bead blasted finish so I'll definitely keep the polyurethane wood finish trick in mind.

Would you mind going into a little more depth about the issues you had with the size of the handles? I don't have huge meat hooks, but I'm rather tall guy so my hand are probably on the larger side. Thanks again:thumbup:
 
When I get home I'll post some pics of a couple Entreks next to a Kabar so you can get an idea of the size---easier than measuring for giving you a real world idea. Or, if you have another knife you'd rather see for comparison shots, tell me. Sadly, I probably have it... :D
 
Good info here. Been considering an Entrek Bison for some time and the info here might just be the nudge I needed to pull the trigger on one.
 
Well, this is hardly the in-depth pictorial I'd hoped for. Now that I'm temporarily released from senility, I remember that my sub-hilt model (can't remember the name) is off getting resheathed, and I gave my Destroyer to my brother in law. So, for the time being, all that's available is the Cobra. Just because the size difference with the Kabar handle was so ridiculous (the Kabar is, of course, a much larger knife) I also threw a Swamp Rat Howling Rat into the mix, so the Entrek's handle wouldn't look like such a midget. That said, if you look at the pic where it is in front of the Howler, you can see the Howler's handle belly extend well above the Entrek's, in addition to being just thicker overall.

The Larger Entreks have proportionally larger handles, but they're just on the smaller side compared to many of the other hard-use fixed blades out there like Busse, Becker, Fehrman, etc. Of course, those scales could always be replaced...

Anyway:



 
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